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Royshh

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Once a professional golfer loses it, is there any way back?

David Duval, Severiano Ballesteros, Lee Janzen, the list goes on.

What happened to these major champions?

Would Brian Manzella be able to reignite their former glories and if so how?
 
Once a professional golfer loses it, is there any way back?

David Duval, Severiano Ballesteros, Lee Janzen, the list goes on.

What happened to these major champions?

Would Brian Manzella be able to reignite their former glories and if so how?

Seve has had a lifelong back problem (from early 20's), so in all probability nothing can be improved in that direction...
 
I would imagine now that for guys like Duval or IBF, it's much more mental. While not at the same level as those guys, I hurt my back my first season of college golf, and once the physical injury had healed, it took me a real long time to get my mental game back to where I had the confidence to hit the shots I used to.

A lot of the time the problems of great players stems from their inability to drive the golf ball into play, especially under pressure, (get the "driver yips" as some say), and it's mostly the confidence to make an aggressive, good swing that they are lacking.

Stew
 
...washed up on a nice sandy beach to find a genie...

...and granted a wish to play golf like never before.

How many careers have been resurrected on the champions tour and why?

How come the big names are not winning, the O'meara's, Strange's, Price's...?
 
I think the players who do well on the senior tour really flat out love golf. Dana Quigley does well because he plays every day, even when at home. O'Meara fishes a lot and so does Strange. It is a desire issue. When Hale Irwin is 90, he will still be trying to beat someone at something. It is not a swing issue with these guys as much as it is mental. That is my opinion. I think those players you mention would really have to want to be number one again as well as being physically able to do it.
 

Jim Kobylinski

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Hank Haney also completely changed Duval's pattern which has to be adding to his issues.

He went from a very strong gripped, flat left wrist with a "shut" looking clubface at the top that hit a fade using angled hinging to someone with a very neutral grip trying to learn how to full roll it.

Why you would mess with someone who had a pattern that shot 59 on tour and became #1 in the world still baffles me.
 
Duval...

Jim,

I thought he was back with his old college coach - Puggy Blackmon. Last time I saw him he was back to his "old" strong grip swing pattern.

Also, he's missed nearly all of this year taking care of his wife who's having a difficult pregnancy.

As for Seve: I know he's back issues for some time but he was a totally natural swinger of the club when he was winning majors...then Mac messed with him) and others as well from what I understand)...then the "naturalness" dissappeared. I saw him when he won the rain-shortened event in New Orleans in the mid-80's - no matter where he hit it you got the feeling that he was at least going to make par - I've never seen anyone like him - "before" or "since".
 
Why you would mess with someone who had a pattern that shot 59 on tour and became #1 in the world still baffles me.

And to take it that far off course too eh...??

I'd like to see the guy come back. He was a real challenger. They need some more top dogs that's for sure.
 
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Chris Sturgess

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I actually think David Duval's weight loss threw him off too. He is not supposed to be a skinny person. I'm all for him being healthy but he can be healthy without having the body of Jim Furyk, he should be closer to Brett Wetterich. That kind of body change can really throw a person's timing off.

He knows what it's like to shoot 59 to win a PGA tour event, and win a major and it's all on video. Seems like he could just focus on that and rekindle it. I'm sure it's easier said than done.
 
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