Weight Shift/Clear the hips

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Brian,

I have a terrible mental problem when it comes to initializing the downswing. The problem is most apparent when it comes to my woods and driver but occasionally occurs with the irons as well. With my practice swing I am able to nicely shift my weight, clear the hips, sustain lag, release and swing through to a nice high finish. It doesn't matter if I'm practicing a soft/slow swing or a fast/hard swing, everthing seems to fall into place nicely.

The problem occurs as soon as there is an actual ball to hit. I do a terrible casting, over the top move with no weight shifted to the left. The finish is terrible and the results are a pull hook which, with my woods and driver hardly gets off the ground.

It seems that the fix should be easy, just step up to the ball and repeat my practice swing. No go. I've also tried various swing thoughts: hit the inside quadrant, swing to right field, pull the right elbow to my hip, concentrate on a nice follow through/finish, etc. Nothing seems to work. This is something that I have been struggling with for quite some time now. I'm a low 20s handicapper that could be much better if I could get my long game to be as good as my short game.

Let me know if you need more info and thanks for any help,

JBrock
 
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Playing the short game well is all about having good contact on impact, by doing so you can control your distance, just like putting. So I must presume that you are having good contact most of the time if I am correct.
Let's look at the word "finish" in your posting. "Finish" is different to "follow through", where Finish is a position where we are reliing on the amount of force (residue) to take our club to its position. Follow through is very much a man make action as well as momentum, pushing the rear elbow away from your body, and squaring your front forearm.
Have you even think about, having a "sensation" of not turning your body. The more you think about putting the club at the finish, you are encourage UPPER BODY rotation, where it will easily causing an casting (Outside to inside swing), where the ball will fly or slice to the right (if you are right handed). By doing so, your right heel (Back heel) will off the ground before impact, and your hand will be losing pressure on finish. (Not able to grip the club nice and firm at finish) Your right shoulder is too active. A slice will easily triggering your mind to close and flick the club and causing a hook. Flicking the club (Wrist break), with rotating club head will causing a hook; if you are seeing the ball is going to your right, your mind will instruct your body to compensate.
Since I am not a wonderful GSED like Brain, I can only give you some silly suggestion.
In your mind.
YOu should think about keeping your right foot on the ground at impact
The only way you can do the above is to understand the direction of generating the force, must be 90 degree off the target, where the force before release should be in front of you, rather then going toward the target.
Don't think about rotating your body, where you body will rotate, in order to adjust the balance change, base on a fix centre. The more you thinking of rotating the body, the more you are affecting your pivot and the fix centre.
Your sensation should also feel like you are not allowing the rear shoulder to come out.
Think more abou you hand rather then your body turn.
You should swing with a sensation of constand speed, rather then accelrating your club at impact
If you are saying hitting on the inside quadrant of the ball, it is good, you are on the right track, but by saying so, your watch on your left forearm should be facing up rather then the target, to have a semi open club face on impact.
Think more about the wrist action as well as the lag and pivot. The wrist is the only unit, where do not affect your fix centre balance a lot.

Hitting a good shot with a good golf swing, you will feel like you are not moving at all.

If you need a lot of effet to turn, very likely you are affecting your fix centre.

Brian, correct me if I am wrong please
 
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Oz...

This section of the forum is "Brian...How do I."

Only post if you have knowledge of the fix I may suggest.

Your post would be fine if it was in the DEBATE section.

As far as an answer to the above post, I give it a D-
 
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quote:Originally posted by brianman

Oz...

This section of the forum is "Brian...How do I."

Only post if you have knowledge of the fix I may suggest.

Your post would be fine if it was in the DEBATE section.

As far as an answer to the above post, I give it a D-
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Ahaha that was blunt...especially the D- part. Made me laugh...

True true though, I must say. (nt Oz)
 
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quote:Originally posted by birdie_man

quote:Originally posted by brianman

Oz...

This section of the forum is "Brian...How do I."

Only post if you have knowledge of the fix I may suggest.

Your post would be fine if it was in the DEBATE section.

As far as an answer to the above post, I give it a D-
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Ahaha that was blunt...especially the D- part. Made me laugh...

True though (nt oz...)
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[EDIT] Oops! This post isn't supposed to be here.
 
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JBrock

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quote:Originally posted by brianman

JBrock,

You need to learn to twist-away and swivel, ala Never Slice Again.

Have you tried to?
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No, I read it a while back but never attempted to implement what was said. I think it may have been because I didn't fully understand it, I will post questions if that is the case.

I have tried the grip you've described in your Grip article (FLW matching the clubface) a few times but without success. I have nothing but pushes with this grip unless I really focus on closing the clubface at impact, but it is very inconsistent for me. Does this tell you anything about my swing? I will go back to using your grip when I try the concepts in Never Slice Again.

Also, occasionaly I will hit fat shots, sometimes hitting the ground as much as 6-8" behind the ball. Because of this, lately I have been working on trying to hit the ball so I take a divot after the ball. I haven't had much success with this yet.

Even with all this , I am having a great time and am completly hooked on golf. I usually shoot in the 90s from the back tees and am improving slowly. I'm working to get down into the 80s consistently by this summer.

Thanks for all the help, I've been lurking on your site for a while now and throughly enjoy it and your insight on the game.

John
 
oztrainee

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Brain,

This is why I am posting the message, if you could correct my thought and put me on the right direction.

Cheers
 
oztrainee

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Brain,

Sorry mate, I just saw that it is the "Brain, How do I... section...."

As I am new here, I just look at the subject and click reply rather then looking at the section header, as I thought I was still in the debate section....
 
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Brian Manzella

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Mr. Brock....I really prode myself on the fact that I am not a HARD-SELLer.

But, you seem like the perfect canidate for the Never SLice Again! video.
 
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JBrock

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Brian, I'll check it out. From what I've read before, I'm pretty sure your video isn't just for the slicer but I want to point that I'm not a slicer by any means, right to left is my ball flight. How much is the problem.

John
 
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JBrock

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Brian, since your doing your production today, is the latest Never Slice Again DVD still coming out in 2 weeks?
 
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