Well that's it, i've officially started hitting the ball too far

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Jim Kobylinski

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When you start hitting booming drives that travel near 300 yards on a semi-regular basis and can't quite seem to find the ball in some minor rough.

Like "magic" it has disappeared.

Does this really piss the hell out of anyone other than me? Nothing like hitting a great drive that might end up a few yards off the fairway way down there only to not find it.

This game is stupid.
 
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MrMichael

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I feel your pain. I was playing course for the second time and it had been over a year since I played it. Lots of blinds shots. On a par 5 I asked what was over the hill everyone said fairway. Well I hit my ball...crushed down the middle....only to find I was thirty yards past the fairway off the side of a near straight up and down lie in the rough on the side this hill. Basically the only shot I had was to punch the ball out to the fairway below as I had no shot at the green. Less than 215 into a par 5 and lay up to 100 yards. A par 5 you can't hit driver is really stupid in my book.
 
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puttmad

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Jim,
Paint red spots on your ball....:)

Seriously, a guy explained this on TV the other night.
Apparently the human eye is programmed to look for food and in our "natural" environment is pulled towards red objects (berries hidden in the bushes etc)...

So maybe use red balls and you'll find them easier....
 
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zarro

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Jim Kobylinski said:
When you start hitting booming drives that travel near 300 yards on a semi-regular basis and can't quite seem to find the ball in some minor rough.

Like "magic" it has disappeared.

Does this really piss the hell out of anyone other than me? Nothing like hitting a great drive that might end up a few yards off the fairway way down there only to not find it.

This game is stupid.
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I know that game, I hate HATE when that happens. Especially when you've stripped it down the middle of the fairway, you walk down the fairway, but you just can't fricken find it. You look through the fairway and you still can't find it. Frustrating as all heck.
 
FloydPT38

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or losing it in the fairway

21 years ago but remember it like yesterday.......

(cue remembering back music)

Senior year of high school golf in a tournament -our team tied and we had to go to sudden death playoff. Me and the other co-captain on our team against the two top guys on the Cocke county, Tennessee team.

The hole was a straight par 4 but a good drive went over a hill. I hit the best drive I had hit all day - split the fairway way over the hill- but.... we never found it. It was Autumn and maybe it was lost under a leaf- maybe a squirrel got it-maybe a member of their team who was waiting over the hill ran across the fairway where we couldn't see and pocketed it...... I had to declare a lost ball and we lost the hole.
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I do feel your pain and remember it 21 years later.
 
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Brian Manzella

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Hmmm....

Someone stole your ball.

Anyhoo, I hate rough, it has NO BUSINESS on a golf course.

One day, I'll get to design my first course, and I'll never have time to do anything else.
 
birdie_man

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Man......we had a fox on our course a while back. You'd hit a perfect drive then you'd see this little bugger prance out and go after your ball.

He'd go all slow too.....he'd stop and look right at you.......he'd do it a few times.....before he had your ball.....when he had your ball......w/e. He knew you were far away and that he was faster than you...........he knew what he was doing. (little @$$#0!&)

Tried to chase him a few times (with a rock in one hand and club in other)......he'd wait till I got close and then take off.........GAHHHHHHHHHH.

The worst part was he got a partner after a while.........good lord.....

Anyhoo they haven't been around for a while....I hope someone killed their ass.

If anyone comes across their stash they're gonna find a MOTHERLOAD of golf balls.
 
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Chris Sturgess

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I hate courses were the fairway gets really narrow or there are hazards as you get out from the tee past 275 yards or so. What are they trying to do punish somebody for hitting long drive, the fairways should get wider the farther you get out there, not narrower or non existent.


Brian Manzella said:
Anyhoo, I hate rough, it has NO BUSINESS on a golf course.
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Seriously?
 
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Brian Manzella

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Chris Sturgess said:
Seriously?
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Really.

One height grass EVERYWHERE EXCEPT tees and greens.

Firm and fast.

Course design as to be easy to make par, hard to make birdie.

Greens run into fairways.

Very few trees, very little dirt moved.

Bunkering that makes you think.

Greens allow shots from anywhere, but always a "correct" angle to get to a pin.

You could putt the ball from the frist tee to the 18th green, no forced carries.

Lots of 2.5, 3.5 and 4.5 par "type" holes.

All par 5 reachable.

A lot of Augusta's original intent, huh?
 
c21heel

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Spent the last few months in Alabama and you can really hit the ball far on dried out fairways! Worst drought in decades, but great for the golfing ego.
 
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Brian Manzella said:
Really.

One height grass EVERYWHERE EXCEPT tees and greens.

Firm and fast.

Course design as to be easy to make par, hard to make birdie.

Greens run into fairways.

Very few trees, very little dirt moved.

Bunkering that makes you think.

Greens allow shots from anywhere, but always a "correct" angle to get to a pin.

You could putt the ball from the frist tee to the 18th green, no forced carries.

Lots of 2.5, 3.5 and 4.5 par "type" holes.

All par 5 reachable.

A lot of Augusta's original intent, huh?
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For the reasons stated by Brian, that is why Alister MacKenzie is one of my favorite course designers.
 
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Chris Sturgess

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Brian Manzella said:
Really.

One height grass EVERYWHERE EXCEPT tees and greens.

Firm and fast.

Course design as to be easy to make par, hard to make birdie.

Greens run into fairways.

Very few trees, very little dirt moved.

Bunkering that makes you think.

Greens allow shots from anywhere, but always a "correct" angle to get to a pin.

You could putt the ball from the frist tee to the 18th green, no forced carries.

Lots of 2.5, 3.5 and 4.5 par "type" holes.

All par 5 reachable.

A lot of Augusta's original intent, huh?
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First of all, can you expand the time frame before a person is logged out? I just wrote a few paragraphs and then got logged out and lost it. Must've been jsut five or ten minutes, how about making it 30 minutes until automatic log out.

But basically I said that I agree that no rough around the green is usually a good idea to allow for bump and runs and more skilled shots than just hack outs. But I think rough has it's place as long as it isn't abused like at the US Open. I disagree on the no elevation, moved dirt, trees, and forced carries though. And Augusta has plenty of those things. It's fun to hit a shot to a green with water in front, it's fun to curve balls around trees, it's fun to play balls of slopes and hit from a high perched elevation, or over a valley or something. I like the 17th at Sawgrass, the 12,13, 15 at Augusta, the 18th at Sugarloaf even.
 
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Chris Sturgess

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A funny thing I just remembered is that during the Players Championship this year they were talking about some guy who played a round there who was supposed to have the highest handicap on record or something. And when he got to 17 he hit like 25 balls in the water from the 90 yard drop area and they said his caddy was suggesting he just putt it around and across the little bridge walkway. I think they said he finally got one on the green and made a 50 something on the hole and shot in the 200s. They should pair that guy with Rory Sabatini in the next pro-am event.
 
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holeout

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Chris Sturgess said:
First of all, can you expand the time frame before a person is logged out? I just wrote a few paragraphs and then got logged out and lost it. Must've been jsut five or ten minutes, how about making it 30 minutes until automatic log out.

But basically I said that I agree that no rough around the green is usually a good idea to allow for bump and runs and more skilled shots than just hack outs. But I think rough has it's place as long as it isn't abused like at the US Open. I disagree on the no elevation, moved dirt, trees, and forced carries though. And Augusta has plenty of those things. It's fun to hit a shot to a green with water in front, it's fun to curve balls around trees, it's fun to play balls of slopes and hit from a high perched elevation, or over a valley or something. I like the 17th at Sawgrass, the 12,13, 15 at Augusta, the 18th at Sugarloaf even.
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Don't think anything was said about no elevation. Not sure anyone would find a flat, no rough, no trees course any fun at all.
 
birdie_man

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This always makes me think of that interview with Geoff Ogilvy (and right after he won the US Open at that)....

He talked about the Road Hole at St. Andrews............as I understand it may be a little too short these days....

But the entire hole is designed (and you must strategize) around that bunker.....and as he says it works because the green is firm. So you can't just stick an approach shot in from anywhere.

And esp. not with holes like this. You gotta be at the right angle (which can change depending on where they set the pin)........or I guess- bomb it down far enough and work with whatever touchy little pitch shot you happen to have.

Wide open holes......but not easy......when designed right that is. And the thing is it can give you all kinds of different options and possible scenarios and strategies and shots you can choose to hit for any given day and the type of player......+ it changes when they set the pins different.

He had a lot of good things to say tho.....and they were very against US Open-style courses....and like I said- this was right after he won the US Open.

If you haven't read the article check it out.....good one. I think searching for threads with "Ogilvy" in the title will bring it up in here.
 
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