What can we learn from a "baseball swing" Pivot?

[conkanen]

As a reforming flipper and a frequent visitor to this site I am always trying to get a "feel" for how a proper downswing pivot is supposed to be. I guess my question is:
Does a "baseball swing" pivot feel anything like a golf pivot? A baseball swing seems very natural to me and I can notice right away how much body/pivot is being used to generate the power as well as the great impact hands. Other than plane, what are the differences?

 

[joeparr]

There has been a few threads on this subject and I was involved in most. I have trouble trying to get what a pivot is excatly so much I screwed up my swing. I tried many different ways to pivot that I played terrible all year insecure of what to do I changed every day. Now I think I`m on the right track I having good results from what BRIAN has said. BELTBUCKLE. Slightly behind it turn and lead with it. Dont think about pivoting just the beltbuckle facing the target.Dont even think about the baseball swing. The pivot comes natural...hope this helps....joe

 

[conkanen]

Thx Joe.

I had about a half an hour range session this year where I focused on just that(belt buckle idea I mean). I hit the ball as great and effortlessly as I ever had. For some reason I couldn't re-create it the next day on the course and kind of abandoned it over time. Have not hit the ball same since.

 

[Burner]

Thx Joe.

I had about a half an hour range session this year where I focused on just that(belt buckle idea I mean). I hit the ball as great and effortlessly as I ever had. For some reason I couldn't re-create it the next day on the course and kind of abandoned it over time. Have not hit the ball same since.

You might like to try addressing the ball as normal, take your right hand off the club and then make a full swing with just your left hand.

Slowly on the back swing but do not hold back on the down swing, just let rip and have the club pull you through to a full finish.

Feel that pivot.

 

[Kevin Shields]

A baseball pivot has the left leg angled backward and the body is way more open. Plus, there is no clubface to square. I'm sure some of the physics applied are the same, but few mechanical similarities.

 

[Brian Manzella]

Baseball been berry, berry good to me —Chico Escuela 42 and sterile

Here is the main similarities:

•*The baseball player starts with their hands mid-body, and weight centered.

• The baseball player shifts weight slightly to the right as the ball is thrown.

• The baseball player lifts the left leg to get the weight OFF the left foot, but not entirely on the right.

• The baseball player FALLS onto the left leg, and once there, unwinds.

• The baseball player HALTS their pivot because the wide step STOPS the pivot from completing at the same rate.

• The baseball player SNAPPED KINETIC CHAIN helps throw the arms and bat into impact.

• The baseball player's BAT, pulls the player around (some of the time) to the finish after the swivel. Or, the player just lets go with the right hand, when it can no longer reach, because of the right shoulder having been halted.

 

[tongzilla]

What about the baseball THROW?

 

[Brian Manzella]

Well...

"Doubled" was a D1 College baseball pitcher.

I'll let him answer this one.

 

[Kevin Shields]

"Doubled" was a D1 College baseball pitcher.

I'll let him answer this one.

Well, weight gets off the lead leg to load the action. In the transition, when the lead leg is planted, you are taking up all the slack in your body for maximum stretch, but that's where the similarity ends. Sidearm throwers have a similar "snapping" of the chain like golf.