What did you learn at the Summit?

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Following up on the recent, "do you guys have an open mind?" threads, I'm curious what TGM gang found of value in Florida. I understand that Mr.Doyle was taking down a lot of notes.
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Here are a few things... David Leadbetter used a technique called PNF (not sure what it stands for) to help learn or correct certain swing mechanics. For example, for spine angle retention, he would push on the front of the student's head with a foam floatie, but have the student resist the push.

Dr. Paul Schemp says to analyze a student's strengths and weaknesses, but tell them what they do well. Ask them how they can be better, then tell them how to become better.

Give feedback only on one thing, until that thing is mastered.
Use metaphors when teaching... "Deliver the pizza"... for Top position.

Hank Johnson likes EYES CLOSED DRILLS.

Jim Hardy has a book coming out called "The Plane Truth".

Stan Utley is putting on an arc. "Take the left forearm and open the face on the backswing." He feels like he is slightly hitting down on the putt, and has a slight forward lean of the shaft at impact. "Cover the ball." He believes the putter should have 3.5 to 4 degrees loft at impact.

He believes some mechanical thoughts are GOOD in putting. He likes to be process oriented, rather than target oriented. "Worrying about the outcome gets in the way of the process."
 
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Here are a few things... David Leadbetter used a technique called PNF (not sure what it stands for) to help learn or correct certain swing mechanics. For example, for spine angle retention, he would push on the front of the student's head with a foam floatie, but have the student resist the push.

Dr. Paul Schemp says to analyze a student's strengths and weaknesses, but tell them what they do well. Ask them how they can be better, then tell them how to became better.

Give feedback only on one thing, until that thing is mastered.
Use metaphors when teaching... "Deliver the pizza"... for Top position.

Hank Johnson likes EYES CLOSED DRILLS.

Jim Hardy has a book coming out called "The Plane Truth".

Stan Utley is putting on an arc. "Take the left forearm and open the face on the backswing." He feels like he is slightly hitting down on the putt, and has a slight forward lean of the shaft at impact. "Cover the ball." He believes the putter should have 3.5 to 4 degrees loft at impact.

He believes some mechanical thoughts are GOOD in putting. He likes to be process oriented, rather than target oriented. "Worrying about the outcome gets in the way of the process."

sounds like the next golf indigest issue...
 
"For example, for spine angle retention, he would push on the front of the student's head with a foam floatie, but have the student resist the push."

The genious that is called Leadbetter has NO bounds!
 
quote:Originally posted by MizunoJoe

"For example, for spine angle retention, he would push on the front of the student's head with a foam floatie, but have the student resist the push."

The genious that is called Leadbetter has NO bounds!

If you act now, you can get that foam floatie for three ez payments of.....
 
David Leadbetter is very good at marketing himself. He has some other device now on the market that encourages an "early set".

The PNF training may have some benefit for certain things. For example... it is pretty well known that putting bands around the arms to train them to stay closer together, actually encourages most people to do the opposite when they are removed. The PNF training changes the direction of the resistance to actually encourage the desired result.

Many of Stan Utley's techniques, in TGM terms, emphasize the #3 Accumulator.
 
quote:Originally posted by lagster

David Leadbetter is very good at marketing himself. He has some other device now on the market that encourages an "early set".

The PNF training may have some benefit for certain things. For example... it is pretty well known that putting bands around the arms to train them to stay closer together, actually encourages most people to do the opposite when they are removed. The PNF training changes the direction of the resistance to actually encourage the desired result.

Many of Stan Utley's techniques, in TGM terms, emphasize the #3 Accumulator.

yes lagster, but ive seen Lead do this in an article already published by putting his hand against head of Rose i think...and stans stuff is already in mags...seems like underlining or going down same roads as in the past. i dont want to be too critical, might have merit, but "holding" a pizza crap is still position golf and ask 20 people how they hold a pizza and i'll show you rotation, reverse rotation, cocked you name it...

sorry its, -34C here in quebec today and its pretty damn near the longest dark day of the year...BAH HUMBUG!!!! lol!
 

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The Summit was very disappointing in many ways....

But I did learn (from the Mat-t system views) that the hips and shoulders turn on pretty much the same plane...
 
quote:Originally posted by brianman

The Summit was very disappointing in many ways....

But I did learn (from the Mat-t system views) that the hips and shoulders turn on pretty much the same plane...

Which plane boss?
 
quote:Originally posted by brianman

The Summit was very disappointing in many ways....

But I did learn (from the Mat-t system views) that the hips and shoulders turn on pretty much the same plane...

That is kind of interesting, but predictable.... just probably not analysed and thought about before.

I like closed eye drills too. :D
 
"Deliver the pizza"... was just an example of a metaphor. Using them helps people remember things.
Dr. Schemp's presentation had to do with ways to teach better, or to get people to learn better.
He is not a golf teacher, but is involved with various areas of sports and learning.

The MAT-T System does look like it could have some value, but I don't think many people can afford it.
 
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quote:Originally posted by brianman

The Summit was very disappointing in many ways....

But I did learn (from the Mat-t system views) that the hips and shoulders turn on pretty much the same plane...

That is kind of interesting, but predictable.... just probably not analysed and thought about before.

I like closed eye drills too. :D

use the force luke!....oh luke...!? you there son?
 
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