what does level mean?
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jerry1967 said:
Reference the Thumb edge . . . with an open hand your fingers will be point DOWNWARD . . . it sort of looks like uncocked. If you hold your arm out infront of you with an open hand and let your wrist relax, you should be pretty much LEVEL. Uncocked is just pointing your fingers further down.
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look down your front arm and cock your wrist, slowly release that untill your left arm and thumb form pretty much a straight line. go beyond that and you are uncocked
4B1 says level is when the wrist bone lines up with the top of the hand up to the first knuckle. SO.....imo, Ignore the bump that the thumb provides. If necessary push the thumb out and away and down so that you can see the part of the hand HK refers to. One trick to getting the thumb out of the way is to try to have it reach down to the base of the littlefinger, and then check your hand's levelness.
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Hold your right arm straight out in front of you. Right arm parallel/level to the ground. So that your eyes are looking right down the right arm. With the right palm facing the ground- point your index finger at something in the distance- you should have in general your right arm and the right index finger pointing in the same direction. That's level.
The three fingers to the right will point to the right of the target in the distance (assuming you have them abducted- stretched away from each other). And the thumb will point off to the left.
If you look down the right arm- that right index knuckle should line up essentially - exactly in the middle of the forearm.
it's not arbritary- That's the geometry that supports the physics. For example, push on a wall- and that's the geometry that best supports the load.
Hold your right arm straight out in front of you. Right arm parallel/level to the ground. So that your eyes are looking right down the right arm. With the right palm facing the ground- point your index finger at something in the distance- you should have in general your right arm and the right index finger pointing in the same direction. That's level.
The three fingers to the right will point to the right of the target in the distance (assuming you have them abducted- stretched away from each other). And the thumb will point off to the left.
If you look down the right arm- that right index knuckle should line up essentially - exactly in the middle of the forearm.
it's not arbritary- That's the geometry that supports the physics. For example, push on a wall- and that's the geometry that best supports the load.
Mike O said:
No it's not. On my hand anyway, the index finger is about half an inch removed from the line of the wrist and arm. You are describing something which might seem logical, but it's not what HK defined as level.
Actually I think the issue at root is that is HK is defining a level wrist, NOT a level hand as you may be.
When the arm is parallel to the ground and palm towards or away from the target (dpending on left or right hand), a level wrist will have the fingers droop slightly. Now I can arrange the wrist to be level and then bring the index finger up to also be in line to point to the distance, but I'm straining to do so and the rest of the fingers don't move up.
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Not sure if I followed your description clearly. But two comments- Bigwill was having difficulty determining a clear reference point for "level", so in general I think that if you point your index finger straight out- i.e. "making a gun" that you will be "level"- and moving from that location with the finger straight you can see uncocked and cocked clearly as the finger points in a different direction than the arm. I think Jim had a good point also- in this regard- if you look at the pictures in the book they will help you define level- although I think Homer's description of "level" is not very good in that it leaves it really vague- hence there is always alot of discussion trying to clarify what "level" is.
dbl said:
Not sure if I followed your description clearly. But two comments- Bigwill was having difficulty determining a clear reference point for "level", so in general I think that if you point your index finger straight out- i.e. "making a gun" that you will be "level"- and moving from that location with the finger straight you can see uncocked and cocked clearly as the finger points in a different direction than the arm. I think Jim had a good point also- in this regard- if you look at the pictures in the book they will help you define level- although I think Homer's description of "level" is not very good in that it leaves it really vague- hence there is always alot of discussion trying to clarify what "level" is.
Tongzilla
Thanks Tongzilla- I agree or at least that's my take that instead of just merely relating to the geometry - understanding the physics really solidifies the concept. In much the same way in discussing a flat left wrist- one understands the law of the flail, etc. and that's one of the main issues in regards to why a flat left wrist is needed, and also why a bent left wrist is OK if the law of the flail is adhered to- i.e. the clubhead doesn't pass the hands.tongzilla said:
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