What is a Sweep Release & why

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Erik_K

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Brian talks about this in one of his video answers, the one about max trigger delay I believe. I think the sweep release has something to do with what is called a circle delivery path. Basically the left wrist in uncocking earlier than most would like, but not necessarily bending (or folding-this would be throwaway).

The short answer for you is that with a sweep release, you are going to lose about a club or club-and-a-half of distance compared someone who has a solid snap release.

That isn't to say you can't have decent impact alignments with a sweep release, though. But you won't hit the ball as far in my opinion. I have a sweep release, but I am working hard to rid myself of it.
 

Erik_K

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quote:Originally posted by 01ragtop

Erik_K,

What are some of the drills you are using to rid yourself of the sweep release?

I am focusing more on axis tilt and driving my right shoulder down plane. I am also paying more attention to what my hands are doing...

As Ben Doyle said, "My eyes are on the ball, but my mind's eye is on the hands."

I think the fiddle drill in slow motion helps. Get to to the top, do a couple of fiddles and swing down. Do it again and again. Perhaps Brian can elaborate more on the fiddle drill.

I asked Brian to do a video short on the great wall of china and I think many people would benefit from this drill as it aids tremendously with aiming point and after whacking at a mound of sand for an hour, when you go to hit a ball, it's going to feel easy.

After the Orlando school Brian suggested that I take swings through tall grass. The idea here is power through the ball. Swing to the target-that is, afterall, your #1 intention. When you go to punch someone, you wouldn't slap at them with your hands, you'd drive through the target with your arms and body.
 
I think that I have a sweep release and use the circle delivery path. I'm very comfortable with my swing and don't really want to change much about it. My last round of golf was my best ever; I hit every fairway, but was not satisfied with my distance. My main focus was using the driver as a positioning club and not to bang the ball. Will making a more aggressive pass at the ball give me more distance?


I'm thinking about making some equipment changes in order to add some length to my driver...

Oddly, my distance with my irons are perfect 165-175 7 iron.
 

Erik_K

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quote:Originally posted by self-mastery

I think that I have a sweep release and use the circle delivery path. I'm very comfortable with my swing and don't really want to change much about it. My last round of golf was my best ever; I hit every fairway, but was not satisfied with my distance. My main focus was using the driver as a positioning club and not to bang the ball. Will making a more aggressive pass at the ball give me more distance?

Theoretically, yes.

What you want to do, instead, is to swing the club better, not harder.

Focus on your impact alignments and you want to hit the ball farther, integrating more snap (that doesn't imply swing faster) is a good way to go.
 
quote:Originally posted by Erik_K

Theoretically, yes.

What you want to do, instead, is to swing the club better, not harder.

Focus on your impact alignments and you want to hit the ball farther, integrating more snap (that doesn't imply swing faster) is a good way to go.

Yesterday I was working on coming into impact with my handS more ahead of the balL OR at least the feeling that my hands lead the club. My biggest fear is that more SNAP will over cook my draw.

My reasoning behind swinging harder comes from the fact that I was swinging very passively.
 
well it's only a 3 yard draw now, and I'm in love with my ball flight. I dont have any problems with my driver besides lack of distance. I want a wee more distance with out adding to much funkyness or timing issues; I'm not looking for the TGM ideal, and will not die if I have a tad bit of throwaway or flipidy diipity in my swing.
 

dbl

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>>I'm not looking for the TGM ideal, and will not die if I have a tad bit of throwaway or flipidy diipity in my swing.<<

Ugh. A sweep release does not entail these.
 
Erik_k,

Thank you for the response. I am familiear with the fiddle drill, but not the Great wall of China drill. Banging a mound of sand? Sounds interesting. Brian, can you share this one?
 

Erik_K

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quote:Originally posted by 01ragtop

Erik_k,

Thank you for the response. I am familiear with the fiddle drill, but not the Great wall of China drill. Banging a mound of sand? Sounds interesting. Brian, can you share this one?

In short, what you want to do is this...

To work on aiming point...

simply draw a line in the sand (inch wide, 3-4 ft long). Make slow, smooth swings with the wedge and hit the line. Don't hit the sand before the line. This will help your aiming point a lot.

My understanding of the great wall is sort of second hand, but here goes...

Pile up some sand (a sand wall, if you will) that is say a an inch or so thick, 3-4 inches high and like 5 ft long. Basically, the idea here is the same as before, but the sand now adds some resistance. Maybe Brian or Tom can post a picture because I don't want to recommend a drill that could hurt someone. But I think this the basic idea. This is not unlike swinging through some tall grass.
 

DDL

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I'm rethinking the straight line delivery path. After lots of trial and error, the straight line delivery path is not simply just aiming the hands in a straight line, ala aiming a rifle, at the aiming point and letting the rest of the swing take care of itself. I end up with a sweep release, circular path, fat shots or thin shots, even if I have axis tilt and a flat left wrist.
The hands need to not only start out on a straight line delivery path, but need to keep going on that path for as long as possible.

Brian's Coke Machine drill is excellent. I need to cheat a bit at the beginning,(with the use of my arms also), to get my hands to go directly, continuously, without interruption, in a straight line towards the aiming point. What had been happening is that my hands would go in a circle as soon as startdown began. Results are promising. Achieving more trigger delay and less fat shots. Have to fight the ingrained habit of releasing too early or releasing too much ahead of the ball. Nevertheless, I still think I am picking the ball clean istead of hitting down. Will have to do more three ball drills in the dirt. That drill was pretty illuminating.
 

hue

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quote:Originally posted by brianman

Nothing wrong with a sweep release.

It will hit the ball shorter.
Brian: I notice sweep release is very good for short game shots giving good distance control. What are your thoughts on this observation?
 

DDL

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I think I finally understand. Any legitimate stroke, inclduing a sweep release and circle stroke, must have a straight line delivery path. If I am releasing early and gradually without a straight line delivery path, I am casting an making a garbage shot.
 

Jim Kobylinski

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there's a few different kinds of delivery paths in TGM

Straight line devlivery path
circle delivery path

those are 2 you hear the most about

There is also a bunch more, a couple i can think of right now are

top arc straight line delivery
angled to straight line delivery
 
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