fisherman58
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Hi i'm new here, and new to TGM. I do have the book though, so if anyone here can decipher what i'm saying and translate it into TGM speak, that would help alot.
I'm what i would call a basic "passive arms and hands" body (hips) swinger, but i'm interested in developing this into what i saw mentioned on a previous thread here: an actively "thrusting right shoulder" body swing. My main reason behind this is that the basic body swing feels rather vulnerable to even the slightest miscue in the backswing process. There is no "filtering" element to compensate for those tiny errors that tend to pop up naturally, unlike an arms swing.
I should mention i've ruled out implementing anything that has to do with manually exerting the arms and hands during the transition/downswing for purposes of power generation. I used to be an 'arms swinger', and i have nothing bad to say about it when its 'on', it has better control when functional, but for me, when its off, its terrible, and it is also much too physically and mentally (focus) exhausting for me during long/grinding periods of play.
So, i'm pretty much set on being a pure "swinger", but with a "hitting" type of striking approach with passive arms and hands if possible. This is why i'm interested in the "right shoulder thrust" concept. I've been messing with it in my own way for a bit, and correct me if i'm wrong, but it appears to me that its a purely "big muscle" type of manual exertion, just like rotating the hips back. Thats fine by me, so long as its feasible without the need for proactive 'twitch muscle' (arms/hands) usage.
From here, my understanding is not entirely clear, but i'll try to explain anyway: two players stick out in my mind when i think of this driving right shoulder concept: Ernie Els and John Daly. I may be wrong about it, but when i watch them on the downswing, i see what appears to be an OTT move, but its not OTT. It seems as though they are swinging 'outside in' within the shoulder plane, and are swinging 'inside out' at impact. Sort of an "internal outside inside out" downswing path if you will. Its a very distinctive approach, looking very 'sharp' (almost choppy) when compared to the seemingly 'proportional' arc of a basic body swing approach.
My questions are, can/does an active 'right shoulder thrust' with passive arms and hands make this type of 'sharp' approach? and, what from the book should i focus on developing, based on where i want to go? The book kind of leaves me second guessing what it says most of the time..
I'm what i would call a basic "passive arms and hands" body (hips) swinger, but i'm interested in developing this into what i saw mentioned on a previous thread here: an actively "thrusting right shoulder" body swing. My main reason behind this is that the basic body swing feels rather vulnerable to even the slightest miscue in the backswing process. There is no "filtering" element to compensate for those tiny errors that tend to pop up naturally, unlike an arms swing.
I should mention i've ruled out implementing anything that has to do with manually exerting the arms and hands during the transition/downswing for purposes of power generation. I used to be an 'arms swinger', and i have nothing bad to say about it when its 'on', it has better control when functional, but for me, when its off, its terrible, and it is also much too physically and mentally (focus) exhausting for me during long/grinding periods of play.
So, i'm pretty much set on being a pure "swinger", but with a "hitting" type of striking approach with passive arms and hands if possible. This is why i'm interested in the "right shoulder thrust" concept. I've been messing with it in my own way for a bit, and correct me if i'm wrong, but it appears to me that its a purely "big muscle" type of manual exertion, just like rotating the hips back. Thats fine by me, so long as its feasible without the need for proactive 'twitch muscle' (arms/hands) usage.
From here, my understanding is not entirely clear, but i'll try to explain anyway: two players stick out in my mind when i think of this driving right shoulder concept: Ernie Els and John Daly. I may be wrong about it, but when i watch them on the downswing, i see what appears to be an OTT move, but its not OTT. It seems as though they are swinging 'outside in' within the shoulder plane, and are swinging 'inside out' at impact. Sort of an "internal outside inside out" downswing path if you will. Its a very distinctive approach, looking very 'sharp' (almost choppy) when compared to the seemingly 'proportional' arc of a basic body swing approach.
My questions are, can/does an active 'right shoulder thrust' with passive arms and hands make this type of 'sharp' approach? and, what from the book should i focus on developing, based on where i want to go? The book kind of leaves me second guessing what it says most of the time..