What the heck IS the pivot

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OK folks.......I did a search of the entire forum without finding an answer.

This may be the dumbest things I have ever publicly asked but....

Where is the pivot felt in a good golf swing?

Here is my problem. I can change the feeling of my pivot by focusing on different areas of the body.

1) I can make it feel like my pivot is coming from my hips by thinking about my hips turning around my left hip joint.
2) I can make it feel like my pivot is coming from my midsection if I focus on turning my navel around my spine.
3) Or...I can make it feel like my pivot comes from my shoulders by trying to feel like I am trying to get my left shoulder as far away from the ball as possible at impact.

All three feel completely different and all three are not giving me the kind of feeling and sound at impact that makes me feel like I am making a good pass at the ball.

Plus, there are times when I have no idea what I am doing and my shots are comparable. (not that great).

So......am I completely inept? Is this something so fundamentally simple that I should be cast out with a scarlet letter on my golf bag?
 

Michael Jacobs

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Pivot components - shouders, feet, knees, hips

Also - ankles, back etc.... --- all items except for the arms, hands, club, and head


Pivot components must be trained first - pivot would look the same with or without a club --- with or with out the arms


As for a BASIC idea on how the pivot might feel --- Brian's article on the perfect pivot is great - as is flipper


One of Homer Kelley's best quotes:

"Learn to train the pivot first so that your hands can then control it!"

A lot of people out there claim that the proper way to do things is to move your hand first and then have the hand pull the pivot ---If I taught that on my lesson tee I would be out of business in a month!!!! :eek:
 
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Learn a free turn in both directions.

Learn how to catch the dog's tail.

Learn how to jump like going for a rebound.

Learn how to throw that drunk off your back.
 
Drunk off the back.....

I don't remember where I saw this comment from BM. Possibly "Flipper," but it has helped my game a lot. I'm a plus handicap golfer, played on various Tours (except the biggest one) and wish I had this feel in my pivot years ago. My feeling was always of hitting with my right shoulder and I would occaisionally smother the ball. Tossing the drunk off my shoulder not only puts a smile on my face (as I remember tossing a couple college buddies into thier bunk this way!) but it's given my more dynamics on the big swing (Driver, power shots) and I'm hitting it more robustly during rounds rather than just on the range when it doesn't mean much anyway!

Tong's notes mean stuff to TGM based folks that share the insight, but catching a dog's tail to a looky lew on this site might as well be written in Chinese!

I feel pivot differently now based on the shot at hand. Stingy pitch/punch shots feel trappy with right shoulder down plane forces (hitting) while normal shots (standard trajectory) are not so aggressive and impact is feels more "mid-soled." The toss the "drunk" feel gives ME the the ultimate "swinging" feel and the club tears through low point.
 

patty

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i'd like to see an video of this, please anyone.


Tried throwing my drunken Wife off My shoulder Saturday.. But it sure didn't feel like a golf swing.. ;-)
 
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