Whatever happened to Hogan's notes?

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I have read most all of the books about Hogan and I have never heard what happened to the notebooks that he would keep track of what he was working on during his practice sessions. I think they would be a facinating read.
 

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I heard that the notebooks referenced in Five Lessons were a fairy tale: that no one who knew Hogan and watched him practice ever saw him with a notebook. Were they mentioned in any of his biographies?
 
Yes I think there was a mention about them I am trying to remember which one, I think the one Curt Sampson wrote, I will try to find it.
 
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Wasnt the little red handbook written by hogan?
 

jeffy

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Byron Nelson had a black notebook that was legendary: supposedly all sorts of insights into his 18 win season of 1945. It was eventually published (I have a copy) and there was nothing of interest in it. If there were Hogan notebooks, I think we'd have all heard about them by now.
 
I wouldn't be surprised at all if Hogan kept a journal of what he was working on as he said he did, he was the type of personality that was well organized and obsessive. It makes you wonder if there is/was a notebook in his estate stuff. I assume whoever got control of his estate after Valerie died would have gone through everything.
 
Hogan reportedly was also very secretive and a bit paranoid when it came to people watching him practice, especially when he was still active on the Tour. It is said that he would often seek out a quiet area that was out of the way and it would be just he and a ball boy. If that is all true, then he may have very well have a notebook or two hidden away somewhere. But one would think that they would have come to light in the past 50+ years though. It would be a good question to put to someone like Jackie Burke who was a close friend of Hogan's. Hell, he might even have the notebook/s himself. Who knows? But, I agree that it would be one hell of a discovery.
 
Unfortunately I think you'll find that the notebook would be full of things that DIDN'T work.....I've got one...:D

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Unfortunately I think you'll find that the notebook would be full of things that DIDN'T work.....I've got one...:D

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I think that you are correct. Even so, it would give an insight into how he went about the process and his thoughts on the golf swing.
 
I have never seen the Hogan notes, but I do have a word document of a letter that Hogan wrote in 1978. In that letter he talked about the driver swing and chipping.
 

jeffy

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I have done a little detective work and can't find any evidence that such notebooks exist, or ever existed. I did a general Google search as well as a search of Google Books and all that I found was the original reference to keeping notes contained in Five Lessons and a handful of references by others to that source. No mention of actual notebooks was found anywhere, nor was there any other instance where Hogan or those close to him talked about him keeping notes.

The closest thing I could find was from James Dodson's Ben Hogan An American Life. Dodson wrote his Hogan biography with what was represented to him as full access to Hogan's personal correspondence and other items, but found that "only some of [this material] turned out to be helpful; Hogan, for example, kept minutely detailed expense and travel diaries and derived great pleasure from dispatching formal letters and puckish notes to his friends but rarely if ever committed his deeper feelings to paper".
 
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