When to pull out NHA?

[curtisj76]

Hi everyone, been away for a few months, hope I didn't miss too much. Question:

SD is a "pattern" correct? NHA is a "pattern" correct?

So if I'm using SD with some success BUT have the occasional hook here and there (usually off the tee), what should I do? My gut says stick with SD and work out the kinks that are causing the hook. I'm thinking if I try NHA that's a whole different "pattern" and that will mess up what I've been previously working on. Make sense????

Thanks

 

[GPM1985]

There's an old post in which Brian provides some suggestions for people who are hooking the ball with the SD pattern. I wrote them down, here they are:

- Less across the line
- "gather marbles" in the toss (I took this to mean that you should keep the palm of your right hand facing the target a little longer through impact)
- Move the "one last point" direction to the left (no idea what this means)
- Hips more open at impact
- Less in on the backswing
- Slightly more hip slide going back

Any of these could help you, though you say the hook is an occasional problem. What's your grip like? I think a weaker grip is one of the best ways to guard against a surprise snapper off the tee. Changing your grip is a lot of medicine though. Wait for a more educated response, I'm sure someone will be able to help you.

 

[jenhaoyen]

these patterns are great for you to utilize them. For me, I have a softdraw pattern backswing with flat wrist (not so much across the line at the top) on the downswing I stretch my leftside fat and right shoulder down towards my left heel. Somehow these things work so great for me. I think if you have occasional hook here and there maybe you might be swinging too much to the right. Maybe try the hurdle drill (i don't know how to spell this word) that really helped me a bunch. Brian definitely changed my golf life with these patterns. I do believe you don't have to use everything in the pattern, but to understand why and what they are there for and utilize them. There is no just one way to swing the club, i had alot of fun just to imitate jack nicklaus swing and sam snead but without understanding these patterns, i would never be able to swing the swing right now. I couldn't believe that myself (5'8 150lb) can wallop that ball with a 7 iron 175-185.

 

[Notorious B.E.N.]

Any video of your swing we could see?

 

[curtisj76]

I'm not really looking for swing tips here guys, thanks though. I'm just asking a question about these 2 videos/"patterns".

My question is should a golfer who's having good success with SD (BUT has an occasional hook) just keep working on SD or should he gravitate towards NHA. To me, it seems that they are 2 different patterns and you are going to get bogged down switching around stuff.

Maybe I'm just not going to get a good answer (even if it's correct), not like someones going to say "don't buy NHA" and take business away from Brian.

Anyone else thinking like I'm thinking???? Maybe I'm just thinking too much.

 

[jimmyt]

My personal opinion is that all of us are always looking for the quick fix and that means always switching swings grabbing bandaids,etc.

I think you should tweak SD pattern and leave it at that. An occasional hook could be something as simple as poor timing on that given swing.

Now having said that if you can watch NHA just for information purposes only, meaning you may see something in that pattern that will lead you right to the source of your SD issues.

IMO

 

[Kevin Shields]

I absolutely think you should buy NHA and study it. I would continue to use the SD as a stock pattern but incorperate some NHA moves in the downswing. You can do some of that quite easily in the downswing from a SD backswing to neutralize a hook.

But then again, if you keep getting better at the SD pattern, you shouldnt really hook it all that often.

 

[benhogan55]

I absolutely think you should buy NHA and study it. I would continue to use the SD as a stock pattern but incorperate some NHA moves in the downswing. You can do some of that quite easily in the downswing from a SD backswing to neutralize a hook.

But then again, if you keep getting better at the SD pattern, you shouldnt really hook it all that often.

What moves from NHA would you incorporate? I love SD but I an trying to work the club more up the wall(NHA) with the hands inside(SD). Thoughts???

 

[Kevin Shields]

What moves from NHA would you incorporate? I love SD but I an trying to work the club more up the wall(NHA) with the hands inside(SD). Thoughts???

Hmmm. I'm ng to visualize that. I dont really think you can get your hands inside AND still go up the wall. The moves im referring to are downswing moves. You can make an SD backswing and follow the yellow brick road -or- shake the sugar....intead of javelin to a toss and point. That will help you fade the ball or stop hooking. The NHA backswing is mainly a remedy for overturned, overly flat shoulders and a leaned right spine. Everyone should own a copy of both dvds and try to mix the patterns a bit to see what works for them. My stock pattern is SD to the letter. I'll shake a little sugar down the yellow brick road when a fade is the shot.

 

[birdie_man]

Nice.

(your last line)

 

[benhogan55]

Hmmm. I'm ng to visualize that. I dont really think you can get your hands inside AND still go up the wall. The moves im referring to are downswing moves. You can make an SD backswing and follow the yellow brick road -or- shake the sugar....intead of javelin to a toss and point. That will help you fade the ball or stop hooking. The NHA backswing is mainly a remedy for overturned, overly flat shoulders and a leaned right spine. Everyone should own a copy of both dvds and try to mix the patterns a bit to see what works for them. My stock pattern is SD to the letter. I'll shake a little sugar down the yellow brick road when a fade is the shot.

sometimes with SD I feel like the club gets inside a bit too quick so I am trying to force the clubhead to stay outside the hands a little longer. The drill in NHA that has helped is the camera in the golfballs that are watching my belt buckle. My nemesis is the right wrist/shoulder dominating. The visual of the belt buckle ahead has helped...SD position at the top gives me great flight and trajectory but the right side problem invariably sneaks in at the most inopportune moments. Thoughts?