Who practices like Hogan?

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SteveT

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Somebody changed my mind.... I'm flexible. Please read the link and the e-book .pdf and respond seriously. Thank you.

I'm not promoting any training method; but since so many want to emulate Hogan, I'm only asking the question about practicing like Hogan.
 

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Can you expand on your thinking? Thanks.

If I want to make some kind of change in my swing, I cant always just go out and do it successfully at full speed. Swinging in a mirror lets me know that I'm doing it right, gives me a feel for it, and I also get to see how it looks from my point of view. Combining this with practice and video gives me a far better chance of getting it done successfully in less time.

I have clubs laying all around the house and every time I walk past a mirror or a window with a good reflection I make a few slow motion swings. lol.
 
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lia41985

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Steve,
Are you familiar with mirror neurons?

Aside: interesting comment by Hogan there about the "pressure" being "forward."
 
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@natep .... you realize you are a true inspiration for wannabe Hoganites... and a tad obsessive with your golfswing... me too... ;)

p.s. I'm into kettlebells now... great workout for golf, tennis and basketball... swingin'n strokin'n jumpin' all over the place.
 
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ZAP

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Hogan does not practice any more. I think you meant to ask "Who practices like Hogan used to when he was alive?"
Kidding! Long story about joke involving Hogan being dead.
 
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Steve,
Are you familiar with mirror neurons?

Aside: interesting comment by Hogan there about the "pressure" being "forward."

Mirror neurons? I think they call that Gestalt Learning by Behavioural Sociologists. More interested in motor neurons.

What did you find interesting about Hogan's comment about "pressure" being "forward"?

OMG.. did I just enervate some mirror neurons by repeating your wording in my question??!!!
 

lia41985

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Here, Steve:

"[Mirror] neurons are scattered throughout key parts of our brain -- the premotor cortext and centers for language, empathy, and pain -- and fire not only as we perform a certain action but also when we watch someone else perform that action. These neurons have been studied in the past for their roles in movement and other functions. Now, however, researchers are examining them intensely for what seems to be an additional function -- the way they fire in response to something observed. The discovery of this mechanism, made about a decade ago, suggests that everything we watch someone else do, we do as well -- in our minds. At its most basic, this finding means we mentally rehearse or imitate every action we witness, whether it is a somersault or a subtle smile. It explains how we learn to smile, talk, walk, dance, or play tennis."

Scientific American Mind
April/May 2006
P. 23-24

From: Hi-TechTennis.com -- Professional Tennis Instruction
 
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SteveT

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@lia .... yes, I googled it too.... now how about clarifying Hogan's comment about "pressure" being "forward" because you got me curious.
 

lia41985

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For reference:
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@lia... yes, Hogan 'feels' a 'pressure' on the good ol' PP#3 at his palmar index finger pad... but that doesn't tell us where the 'forces' are generated. One could assume that 'pushing' creates the pressure and the right hand applies the force, but that's not a scientifically adequate explanation because it does not take into account the entire 'system' associated with the feeling of the 'pressure'.

It's a post hoc ergo propter hoc 'feeling'. Science demand a definitive explanation.
 
Somebody changed my mind.... I'm flexible. Please read the link and the e-book .pdf and respond seriously. Thank you.

I'm not promoting any training method; but since so many want to emulate Hogan, I'm only asking the question about practicing like Hogan.

I do employ many of the techniques Hogan in 5 Lessons suggested. For me my golf stroke is based on the funndamentals that Hogan defined in 5 Lessons. What I don't and haven't done is to try and emualte Hogan's swing. My read on Hogan's 5 Lessons was not that this was his how to swing like him, but defining a set of fundamentals that the golfer could build on and develop a consistent golf stroke. I do find that many of the illustrations speak volumes to me regarding the swing, but I fear I have little resemblance to his swing, but I am consistent.n Slow Motion is a biggie for my routines, inlcuding on the course when playing a difficult shot.
 
I was in the same class as Jimmy Kim, the 1988 heavyweight Olympic gold medalist in Tae Kwan Do, in chiropractic college. Even though he had trained under his father since he could walk, he said the coaches their had the athletes doing a lot of slow motion training at the Olympic training center in Colorado both for reinforcing proper technique and also for sparring sessions.
 
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