It is clear to me that one of the TGM imperatives is to have a flat left wrist at the top and at impact. At the risk of asking a stupid question, could somebody please explain why a cupped left wrist (given a neutral grip) is such a bad thing (is it really so bad)? Also, could somebody please tell me what 'bad shot' is the result of having a cupped left wrist?
Why not a cupped left wrist?
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c21heel
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Sweetspot, I think a cupped left wrist at the top is what is referred to as a double wrist cock in TGM terms. I've seen many players who have cupped left wrists, but they tend to fight a fade and/or slice.
So I guess the answer would be, you are more likely to slice or play a fade with a cupped left wrist. But as always, there are exceptions.
TGM experts, am I kind of close in my assessment?
So I guess the answer would be, you are more likely to slice or play a fade with a cupped left wrist. But as always, there are exceptions.
TGM experts, am I kind of close in my assessment?
Tom Bartlett
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You just need a flat left wrist or it's equivalent during the impact interval. Lots of great players were cupped at the top. It's not imperative to be flat at the top but why wouldn't you want to be?
Erik_K
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Els has a cupped wrist as did Hogan.
If at impact you'd like a wrist that is flat, it is easier to get there if it is flat at the top. As Brian told me at the Orlando school, "if that wrist is flat at the top and flat at the finish, it's likely flat at impact."
In other words if your wrist is cupped, you are going to have to perform a COMPENSATING move to make it flat at impact. Having a FLW at the top and maintaining it through to the impact zone means that I didn't have to properly perform and time a pronating wrist move to 'flatten it' before impact.
If at impact you'd like a wrist that is flat, it is easier to get there if it is flat at the top. As Brian told me at the Orlando school, "if that wrist is flat at the top and flat at the finish, it's likely flat at impact."
In other words if your wrist is cupped, you are going to have to perform a COMPENSATING move to make it flat at impact. Having a FLW at the top and maintaining it through to the impact zone means that I didn't have to properly perform and time a pronating wrist move to 'flatten it' before impact.
starretj
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If your hand/wrist is cupped at impact, it is almost impossible to fully compress the ball and to sustain that compression, meaning that you will have forfeited some of your power and accuracy that you desire in the swing. Usually with cupping, you have also shortened your lever of the left arm and clubshaft to just the clubshaft.
All sorts of "bad" shots can/do happen, but in general high, soft and often sliced shots. If you happen to keep your swing on plane, the bad shot will usually be thin.
Jim S.
RicoSuave05
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1.) you can´t get your hans in front of the ball
2.) therefore you add loft to the club
3.) your low-point isn´t opposite your left shoulder
4.) so to make a ball then ground stroke you have to change the setup
Rico
2.) therefore you add loft to the club
3.) your low-point isn´t opposite your left shoulder
4.) so to make a ball then ground stroke you have to change the setup
Rico
starretj
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What does "fully compress" mean?
In practical terms it means transfering as much energy into the ball as possible. If you want information on the physical aspect, I will try to explain.
What do you mean by "sustaining the compression"?
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This is related to fully compress, the ball rides / deforms on the clubface for approximately 3/4". You want to sustain the energy being transfered into the ball during this time. The practical application is you don't want a glancing blow to the ball from the clubface. I hope this helps.
Jim S.
The problem with wrist positions at the top, IMHO, is that the student who thinks he is cupped is really flat, the one who thinks he is flat is really bowed, and the one who thinks he is bowed looks like that Handi-man character from In Living Color. Of course, I don't teach, nor am i very good.
Brian Manzella
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I prefer a PERFECTLY FLAT left wrist.
99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the time,
it works better.
99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the time,
it works better.
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