Why you might hit a Slice with a Reverse Pivot

[jenhaoyen]

In order to hit the ball from reverse pivot you would swing wayy to the right once you start your downswing with open clubface. The change of direction from top the bottom opens the clubface a bunch even with just a lil bit of axis tilt.

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[Brian Manzella]

Back to the Future....

What is a "Reverse Pivot"?

A pivot with a lot of hip slide, very little hip turn, a very steep shoulder turn caused by a lot of left side bend and more back extension then normal.

It often has the weight going toward the left foot on the backswing as well.

What is the difference between a "Classic Reverse Pivot" and the so-called "Stack & Tilt" backswing pivot?

The S&T pivot has PLENTY of hip turn and more rotation in the middle of the pivot resulting from the inward hand path.

Why does the CLASSIC REVERSE PIVOT often exacerbate an open face, and why do so many SLICERS reverse pivot?

Because the CLASSIC REVERSE PIVOT forces the hands outward rather than inward, almost guaranteeing an over rotated left arm flying wedge, the club winds up more open at the top, and then the CLASSIC REVERSE PIVOTER hands move even more outward in the change of direction with ROUND-HOUSING SHOULDERS and back flexion.

Then the LATE right side bend and back extension works VERY UNDER the left arm flying wedge and the sweetspot, making the clubface even more open.

Fore Right!!!

Does the S & T backswing cause a slice?

The inward hand path and full hip turn are very good elements to help prevent slicing.

Why do you teach a forward bend (back flexion) backswing in NEVER SLICE AGAIN?

Because I have found that having LESS LEFT SIDE BEND at the top, make sit easier for the golfer to stay on top of the left arm flying wedge and sweetspot on the downswing.

But, I do, and have, fixed slicers with all sorts of backswing pivots, including the S&T one.

 

[cnadon]

What is a "Reverse Pivot"?

A pivot with a lot of hip slide, very little hip turn, a very steep shoulder turn caused by a lot of left side bend and more back extension then normal.

It often has the weight going toward the left foot on the backswing as well.

What is the difference between a "Classic Reverse Pivot" and the so-called "Stack & Tilt" backswing pivot?

The S&T pivot has PLENTY of hip turn and more rotation in the middle of the pivot resulting from the inward hand path.

Why does the CLASSIC REVERSE PIVOT often exacerbate an open face, and why do so many SLICERS reverse pivot?

Because the CLASSIC REVERSE PIVOT forces the hands outward rather than inward, almost guaranteeing an over rotated left arm flying wedge, the club winds up more open at the top, and then the CLASSIC REVERSE PIVOTER hands move even more outward in the change of direction with ROUND-HOUSING SHOULDERS and back flexion.

Then the LATE right side bend and back extension works VERY UNDER the left arm flying wedge and the sweetspot, making the clubface even more open.

Fore Right!!!

Does the S & T backswing cause a slice?

The inward hand path and full hip turn are very good elements to help prevent slicing.

Why do you teach a forward bend (back flexion) backswing in NEVER SLICE AGAIN?

Because I have found that having LESS LEFT SIDE BEND at the top, make sit easier for the golfer to stay on top of the left arm flying wedge and sweetspot on the downswing.

But, I do, and have, fixed slicers with all sorts of backswing pivots, including the S&T one.

This sounds like me, but then I hook it. And my back hurts. What's te best way to get rid of the reverse pivot? Anyone had success curing it?