Working the ball at the Masters

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I keep hearing that it's going to be tough for Tiger at Augusta. Because if if you want to win, you must be able to hit intentional draws at numerous holes.

But didn't Nicklaus try to hit fades with nearly every swing? He won the thing six times!

Not sure I understand. Was it just easier to really curve the old balata balls than it is to curve today's urethane balls?
 
I keep hearing that it's going to be tough for Tiger at Augusta. Because if if you want to win, you must be able to hit intentional draws at numerous holes.

But didn't Nicklaus try to hit fades with nearly every swing? He won the thing six times!

Not sure I understand. Was it just easier to really curve the old balata balls than it is to curve today's urethane balls?

Tiger can hit the draws as needed. He didn't forget how.
 

Kevin Shields

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Nicklaus put in a draw before the Maters, basically favored a fade his whole career but played shots made to order as well as anyone ever.
 
It's not been his draws that have kept him from Butler Cabin in recent years.

I'm REALLY liking Tiger's chances at Augusta right now! If he putts remotely like he did this week, he's gonna be very tough to beat. Even if he hits nothing but fades.
 

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Jack's ability to work the ball both ways was what prompted Faldo to overhaul his swing so that he could contend in majors.Jack preferred the fade as his go to shot but he was able to draw it also.Faldo played practice rounds alternating shots between draw and fade.

A lot of people also think Hogan hit nothing but fades after his secret.He could also go back to pre secret and hit draws when he needed to.He hit a lot of draws in that Shells match with Snead.

That's the secret of playing at the highest level in majors.Working the ball both ways with control.You're not only able to shape tee shots to the shape of the fairway but also attack the pins without taking risks.Faldo said after playing with Nicklaus that Jack aimed for the center of greens and then faded or drawed the ball depending on where the pin was cut.If the shot worked out then he had a short birdie putt.If the shot went straight it's still on the green,only a longer birdie putt.
 

Kevin Shields

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Tiger won Bay Hill last year , right? He'll most likely have good form entering The Masters every year, he really needs this one, only adding to the pressure.
 
I keep hearing that it's going to be tough for Tiger at Augusta. Because if if you want to win, you must be able to hit intentional draws at numerous holes.

But didn't Nicklaus try to hit fades with nearly every swing? He won the thing six times!

Not sure I understand. Was it just easier to really curve the old balata balls than it is to curve today's urethane balls?

It sounds like you might not own one of Brian's best video's ever, SD 2.0.

In it, Brian pretty brilliantly explains that Jack's fundamental swing was a draw swing – with SD elements in it, especially a no popout backswing and a slightly across the line top of the back swing. But out of this position, Jack mainly played a fade by holding it off. It was therefore easy, from Jack's basic swing, for him to spend time every year leading up to the masters, as Kevin notes, to put the draw into his game.

As for Tiger...

On 18 on Saturday, with a tough pin placement and GMac trying to make another charge, Tiger hit a really nice hold draw into the left to right wind and made one of his most important birdies of the week. He also played a number of draws off the tee with clubs less than driver (the bogey on 16 on Sunday was a product of overdrawing his 3 iron stinger).

I don't think Tiger will try to draw the driver at Augusta, but I don't think he needs to. The driving holes that really demand a draw (10, 13) can be played with a 3 wood, especially now that 3 woods for the Pros go 290 yards.
 
If memory serves me right, Tiger was at the top of the leaderboard after 36 holes last year at the U.S. Open and British Open. But for whatever reason (pressure maybe?) he lost his form over the weekend.

This weekend, he led after 36 and then Graeme McDowell made a phenomenal charge at him with flawless golf on the front nine. But Tiger didn't fold. He kept his composure, kept hitting excellent shots and kept making putts.

Seems important. Commentators are saying Tiger's misses are much better. Bad drives end up slightly in the rough rather than deep in the trees. Dunno if it's mental or technical but Tiger seems to have figured out how to right the ship when things begin to look shaky.
 

jimmyt

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If memory serves me right, Tiger was at the top of the leaderboard after 36 holes last year at the U.S. Open and British Open. But for whatever reason (pressure maybe?) he lost his form over the weekend.

This weekend, he led after 36 and then Graeme McDowell made a phenomenal charge at him with flawless golf on the front nine. But Tiger didn't fold. He kept his composure, kept hitting excellent shots and kept making putts.

Seems important. Commentators are saying Tiger's misses are much better. Bad drives end up slightly in the rough rather than deep in the trees. Dunno if it's mental or technical but Tiger seems to have figured out how to right the ship when things begin to look shaky.



Tiger has proven now 76 times that he knows how to win......
 
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