Working the ball

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Bigwill

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Since it's so hard to hit a straight shot, why not teach people to move the ball one way or the other as a tee shot strategy, eliminating one side of the hole? From a theoretical standpoint, it seems to make more sense to me; if hitting a straight shot is the hardest thing to do (impossible, many believe, including Hogan), why not just harness that? Would it not go a long way toward teaching clubface control (that is, practicing different shots)? Using myself as an example, I'm not a very good player (in fact, I'm pretty bad), but I've always been able to make the ball go left, right, or low. But I spend my entire practice sessions trying to hit the ball straight. Now, would I not be better off aiming up the right or left side and making it come back in, instead of aiming up the middle, not sure which way I'm going to miss? I'm talking tee shots here, not working it off a front left bunker to a back right hole location; that's for those single-digit guys :)
 
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Manzella Instructional Video -- "Work It, Baby!"

I would gladly purchase a Manzella video on how to work the ball. Any chance this might happen?
 
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Damon Lucas

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Brian Manzella said:
Straight Balls are for people who like fantasy over reality.

Work it, baby!
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Tom, what do you think about this quote?

Brian, do you think that to be the best driver of the ball that YOU can be, that you should work it one way or the other, but not both?

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"I would gladly purchase a Manzella video on how to work the ball. Any chance this might happen?"

I was going to post this the other day. Good idea.

PS For hitting and swinging
 
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Brian Manzella said:
Straight Balls are for people who like fantasy over reality.

Work it, baby!
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If we define a straight shot as one that doesn't side spin more than 1 yard left/right of target, would you recommend amateur players to master this shot, since many tour players use this also?
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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hitting a straight shot isn't that hard and when i mean straight i'm talking about a ball that moves maybe 1-2 yards either way. That's "straight enough" for me.

That's basically how i teach, you end up with a pretty straight ball and all you have to do is reposition your body to work it one way or the other.

But not every student can get to "that level." So for those i usually get them to do one or the other.
 
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jim_0068 said:
hitting a straight shot isn't that hard and when i mean straight i'm talking about a ball that moves maybe 1-2 yards either way. That's "straight enough" for me.

That's basically how i teach, you end up with a pretty straight ball and all you have to do is reposition your body to work it one way or the other.

But not every student can get to "that level." So for those i usually get them to do one or the other.
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Jim,

Would you mind outlining the repositioning necessary for drawing and fading for a swinging procedure?
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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rwh said:
Jim,

Would you mind outlining the repositioning necessary for drawing and fading for a swinging procedure?
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- Keep same ball position as normal
- Address the ball the same as you would to produce a straight shot
- Keep clubface looking at target
- Adjust the entire "machine" to the right of your target
- Swing along your new adjust plane line with no face manipulation

The above will make you draw the ball. Do the opposite and you will fade the ball.

To pronounce the draw using above:
- Initially put the ball further back in stance before you do above

To pronounce the fade using above:
- Initially put the ball further foward in stance before you do the above
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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birdie_man said:
Wouldn't you put er forward for the draw? (Hor. Hinge...no?)
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No, the further back in the stance you put it when you're swinging the more you will swing "inside out" and with a horizontal hinge the more you will draw the ball.
 
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jim_0068 said:
- Keep same ball position as normal
- Address the ball the same as you would to produce a straight shot
- Keep clubface looking at target
- Adjust the entire "machine" to the right of your target
- Swing along your new adjust plane line with no face manipulation

The above will make you draw the ball. Do the opposite and you will fade the ball.

To pronounce the draw using above:
- Initially put the ball further back in stance before you do above

To pronounce the fade using above:
- Initially put the ball further foward in stance before you do the above
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Thanks, Jim. I'll give it a try on my next range session.
 
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