Your best "keep the face open through impact" tips
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Dariusz J.
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Work on your pivot first. Without a decent pivot there are always overactive arms & hands.
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Kevin Shields
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I agree with Dariusz and would add to learn to bend your left wrist thru impact and not try to hold on or roll it.
Jim Kobylinski
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weaker right hand grip
make sure to pivot through the entire shot
make sure to have forward lean
left thumb UNDER the club at the top of your swing
purposely feel like you cock both your wrists in the backswing
tell yourself, DON'T hit the back of the ball
one of those should work
make sure to pivot through the entire shot
make sure to have forward lean
left thumb UNDER the club at the top of your swing
purposely feel like you cock both your wrists in the backswing
tell yourself, DON'T hit the back of the ball
one of those should work
Dariusz, Kevin: What are the characteristics a good pivot for you?
Jim, what part of the ball should you try to hit?
Everything that causes a closed face at impact has happened well before impact. The closed face is just an unfortunate biproduct of a huge block cut. At that point, you are just holding on for the ride. You can drag the handle left or work the knuckles under, but those are band-aids.
Dariusz J.
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Kevin's answer will be much realistic and pragmatic so listen to him; if you still wanna hear my theoretical ideal - IMO a good pivot is when it alone, without additional conscious help of arms/hands, can deliver the clubface to the square-to-arc position before entering the impact zone.
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Virtuoso
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I don't understand the whole deal with Hogan's secret. We've got a lot of video of his swing. We can clearly see what he's doing. What am I missing?
That's just it. It's like the emperor has no clothes! iMO his secret was hard work, supreme inner confidence and a major grip change around 1944/45. One of my mentors when I was young played with him in the famous 1960 US Open. He told me Hogan had the fastest swing of anybody he ever played with and when he HAD to draw it, he slowed it down! Snead claimed he changed his grip and became a body swinger and he (Snead) preferred to swing his arms more. BTW on that famous open Saturday, he hit the first 34 GIR (!) before dumping his wedge in the creek in front of 17 at Cherry Hills.
Dariusz J.
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Haha. So find me a single guy who is able to swing similarily to Hogan and get ballstriking results as Hogan did post-secret. Many great pros (not mentioning amateurs) tried (still try) and failed (still fail). That's the cold truth.
And to all - post-secret means that it is after the famous 2-weeks' break from Tour in 1946 when Hogan ADMITTED HIMSELF had an idea lying in bed. He went to the range and discovered the idea worked like a charm. The stronger he hit the better results he had - nice small powerfade. Then he put it into competition and won several tournaments that year and later on.
Could say more but do not want to be accused once again to wste a thread into another Hogan debate.
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Thanks for the replies.
ekennedy: On first reading this my first impression was that it is nonsense. After thinking about it, I can see your point. But you haven't mentioned any factors which lead to the closed face. Would you care to mention the most important factors for you?
No BS, but I have been right about a lot of things to do witht the golf swing over the years, much of which flew in the face of convention. I have also been wrong about a number of things, much of which was in line with convention.
My hypothesis: conventional thinking that the pivot determines clubface alignment is misguided. It's a hands issue. In other words, you can pivot how you like and still have an open/shut/square face at impact. Any takers?
ekennedy: On first reading this my first impression was that it is nonsense. After thinking about it, I can see your point. But you haven't mentioned any factors which lead to the closed face. Would you care to mention the most important factors for you?
No BS, but I have been right about a lot of things to do witht the golf swing over the years, much of which flew in the face of convention. I have also been wrong about a number of things, much of which was in line with convention.
My hypothesis: conventional thinking that the pivot determines clubface alignment is misguided. It's a hands issue. In other words, you can pivot how you like and still have an open/shut/square face at impact. Any takers?
dschultz6072
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Off topic but here's a response...Spider had that look and was pretty dang good. RIP
Moe was the straightest most consistent ballstriker ever,not Hogan.Moe couldn't putt so he had ballstriking competitions with Knudson who was also a great ballstriker.The rules were you didn't have to putt.If you hit a fairway and the other guy missed it,you win $20.Same for hitting a green.If you hit a flagstick you win $100.Needless to say Moe took George's money gladly.In one round he hit 6 flags.
Take that Hogan!!LOL
Take that Hogan!!LOL
Dariusz J.
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I won't go into another Hogan vs. anyone (especially vs. Moe that I put on the same high pedestal as Hogan and explained in detail my opinion about him in one bigger earlier thread), as said. Especially with you...LOL.
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P.S. Nice copy from an article that you just have prolly been directed to very recently...ROFL.
ok don't get your knickers in a knot
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