Uncocking at address
golfbulldog said:
2 points ( first one my particular "Hobby Horse"... second more answer/discussion of your post)
1. I have never been convinced that many people can do a zero shift as per TGM. I admit that i am trainee too and i may have completely misunderstood what zero shift means . There was an old thread discussing ernie els swing and does he shift ( there were two schools of thought and i said yes).
If you have level wrists( left and right) at impact and address ( seems to be recommended in tgm) then the shaft/sweet spot plane established is the plane angle that must be adhered to throughout our zero axis swing.
Set up an inclined plane at this angle. Now make natural backswing and see where right shoulder is ( remember that TSP is part of 12-2-0!) and see where club is. I bet neither are on plane established at address. That is why almost everyone anatomically needs a plane shift in backswing if they START WITH LEVEL WRISTS and USE TSP ( turned shoulder plane). It may not be massive shift but in TGM precision is everything and a shift, no matter what size, is still a shift.
If you start with uncocked wrist position you might be able to manipulate this zero plane shift / TSP combination but why get to impact uncocked already!?
2. I agree that most pros use double shift. Few people give much discussion to why it is so common. There are a number of possibilities but here is one theory...
If you believe in evolutionary theory then one can liken golf swing development to biological evolution. Pro golfers undergo "survival of the fittest" on a weekly basis - "the cut" - and on a yearly basis - top 125 money winners regain tour card etc... Any similarities in their swings will have developed due to either an advantage in survival or , at worst, a neutral effect on survival ( ie. no harm and no good - so why change).
My bet is that there is a biomechanical advantage , at least in terms of distance, to double shift. From above you can tell i think almost everyone shifts on a full swing in the backstroke, so we are only really debating downswing shifts.
I am currently thinking that players who closely link the downswing pivot to their armswing will shift on the downswing. These tend to be the max trigger delay type power swings ( high clubhead speed for given hand speed).
All of this is current thoughts and still incubating so feel free to put me right. Made of sturdy stuff...
Interesting
If I am correct, you must be a Swinger
There is quite a few TGMer are having an left wrist uncock setup, and some even play with a stronger grip 10-2-F Underhand grip if they are under pressure. By having a stronger grip, your left wrist will look like uncock and the whole machine will look more upright too. If I am correct at Impact Fix, Hitter's hand will be higher then Swinger anyway. So the configuration is more compatible with Hitting (look a bit like Moe Norman), and with the RIGHT FOREARM PICK UP, ACTIVE RIGHT ELBOW, very likely you can cut the first shift. With the Extensor Action maintaining the Structure of the Power Package, at RFP you are forcing the shoulder to rotate anyway. (Hands Controlled Pivot)
Part of the deal in the book listed in 3-F-5, our right forearm should be on Plane at address. This is why some TGM guy will have a totally different shape at address then most player on the Tour (Particularly Hitters), and we believe, that will give you a better alignment for the motion and perfect balance during the swing.
Now you are so right about the downswing. As this is something that we should discuss on. I presume if you are a Hitter, (with less variation but more manipulation then a Swinger). I cannot see why we have to do an extra shift on the downswing.
I am still a bit confuse on the 10-24F (Not sure about the chapter, as I do not have the book with me) Something to do with the off plane loading. This could be the bit we have to think about the extra shift.