Need Advice to rebuild my swing.

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timm

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OK I’ve been working on incorporating TGM into the swing I have now. While I see that the TGM has helped me with my current swing I feel I have allot of bad habits still in grained. So over the next 6 months I would like to rebuild my swing. I plan on starting like it was the first time I had ever picked up a club. I plan on using the book and Brains webstie to build my pattern. I’ve read the book as Mr. Kelly has suggested. The first thing I was going to do is learn 12-5.1 (basic motion) and then 12-5.2( acquired motion)and then 12-5.3 (total motion). After learning these procedures when should I pick a pattern and how should I pick the pattern? I plan on doing each one for 1 month tell I feel I have it to the best of my knowledge then move on to the next. Does anyone have any other suggestion that might help my learning process of TGM. I know seeing Brain would be one but right now I don’t have the money to make a trip.
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Hi Tim,

Your plan sounds fabulous and hoping the very best of successes on your journey!

Which pattern to pick? If you stick to your plan, in time, I think you will know which to choose for the appropriate shot or maybe a total commitment to one pattern ...

My input would be to invest a few dollars into Confessions of a former flipper. A bunch of good tidbits on virtually everything. If already in your possession, to really dial in and focus on the foundation of your swing, a perfect pivot. It'll speak volumes.

AND, and this is a biggie, spend gobs of time chipping and putting...!
 
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tourdeep said:
Hi Tim,

Your plan sounds fabulous and hoping the very best of successes on your journey!

Which pattern to pick? If you stick to your plan, in time, I think you will know which to choose for the appropriate shot or maybe a total commitment to one pattern ...

My input would be to invest a few dollars into Confessions of a former flipper. A bunch of good tidbits on virtually everything. If already in your possession, to really dial in and focus on the foundation of your swing, a perfect pivot. It'll speak volumes.

AND, and this is a biggie, spend gobs of time chipping and putting...!
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Thanks Tourdeep. I have confessions of a former flipper and I have printed off perfect pivot and do the one club drill Brain talks about 30 times a night before I go to bed. I will do allott of chipping and putting.

Timm
 
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Monitored Practice is what you need. You can't see yourself swing. So you need either a. an instructor that is competitent (BM would be a fantastic choice) b. if you can't do a. then you need to purchase a video camera and monitor your practice.

FEEL IS NOT REAL. Mike (psych)O has a PHD in this (as well as axe handle to human skull techinque). But what you FEEL is 3 foot of change may only be an INCH. So the only way you can verify your FEEL is to see the REAL. AND your FEEL will change but the proper mechanic WILL NOT. If you have never had Axis Tilt it will feel fonky . . . but as you integrate it into your motion the "fonky" feel will subside or if you keep trying to achieve that "fonky" feeling you will overcook what you are trying to achieve and pervert it.

If you feel like a dork with a video camera at the range . . . then buy you a net. Set up a Studio next to that Meth Lab in your basement. Or do it in your yard.

So you gotta Monitor somehow . . . instructor or with a buddy or with a camera.
 
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rundmc said:
If you feel like a dork with a video camera at the range . . . then buy you a net. Set up a Studio next to that Meth Lab in your basement. Or do it in your yard.
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WOW!
 
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rundmc said:
Monitored Practice the Return of NAT aka David Orr Doctrine is what you need. You can't see yourself swing. So you need either a. an instructor that is competitent (BM would be a fantastic choice) b. if you can't do a. then you need to purchase a video camera and monitor your practice.

FEEL IS NOT REAL. Mike (psych)O has a PHD in this (as well as axe handle to human skull techinque). But what you FEEL is 3 foot of change may only be an INCH. So the only way you can verify your FEEL is to see the REAL. AND your FEEL will change but the proper mechanic WILL NOT. If you have never had Axis Tilt it will feel fonky . . . but as you integrate it into your motion the "fonky" feel will subside or if you keep trying to achieve that "fonky" feeling you will overcook what you are trying to achieve and pervert it.

If you feel like a dork with a video camera at the range . . . then buy you a net. Set up a Studio next to that Meth Lab in your basement. Or do it in your yard.

So you gotta Monitor somehow . . . instructor or with a buddy or with a camera.
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Thanks I do have a camera and that is the reason I've decide to rebuild my swing. When I felt like I was doing some thing different I wasn't it was the same old habit with a different feel.

Timm
 
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timm said:
Thanks I do have a camera and that is the reason I've decide to rebuild my swing. When I felt like I was doing some thing different I wasn't it was the same old habit with a different feel.

Timm
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First place to start . . . 1st Imperative . . . Video some HARD chips . . . can you keep your Left Wrist Flat? Are you On Plane? Work from there. If you can't do it on the short stuff . . . then it ain't happenin' on the long stuff.
 
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Rebuild....

The thing I would do -if you can't take a lesson from me- is to start from the grip and rebuild one step at a time.

Supervised practice is a great idea, but no one can really do it (either not enough time or not enough money).

Lets start with you sending me your swing on video.
 
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rundmc

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Brian Manzella said:
The thing I would do -if you can't take a lesson from me- is to start from the grip and rebuild one step at a time.

Supervised practice is a great idea, but no one can really do it (either not enough time or not enough money).

Lets start with you sending me your swing on video.
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Dude . . . I think this concept is where this whole internet thing will make dudes like you rich! If people can figure out how use them web cam thingies or video for stuff other than porn . . . you will be a rich man.

Do you reckon a "net" lesson would be the next best thing to Italian Stallion Live and Direct?

I know Bucket on pawno web is not a pretty image . . . I almost puked myself.
 
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Brian Manzella said:
The thing I would do -if you can't take a lesson from me- is to start from the grip and rebuild one step at a time.

Supervised practice is a great idea, but no one can really do it (either not enough time or not enough money).

Lets start with you sending me your swing on video.
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Brain,

Thanks. I'll try to get to you once I figure out how to transfer it from my camera to the computer. I'll video it down the line and face on.

Timm
 
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Brian Manzella

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rundmc said:
And of course . . . We BOTH know that you would do them EXPONENTIALLY better . . . so when you gonna run the guantlet?
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I just don't believe it.

I really am sorry, I guess I have been bashed to death and think everyone is reading from some playbook on how to "get to" me.

So...here I sit.
 
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Yes, a bit strange. Maybe the same answer works in both places.

Interesting idea if a "good" 30 fps webcam could be used by BM for web lessons.
 
Millrat

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Timm, good luck, I'm on the same journey.

You've got some good advice already so I wont try and add to it.

I read the book as you did, then started with basic, aquired, and so on.

It's really tough for me to shed 20 yrs of questionable habits, but IMO it starts with basic motion and grows from there.

The biggest challenge for me is actually playing golf in this transition sort of mode, I concentrate on 3 Is but once the trigger is pulled the 20 yrs wedges its way back in.

Maybe I'll send some video.

CW
 
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Brian Manzella

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The PROBLEM with "Basic Motion Curric."

What if all you needed was a clubface adjustment?

What is all you needed was a hips, hands, open clubface adjustment?

What if?

In my opinion, you need to give the short—to—long rebuild a PLACE WORTH attaching itself to.

A better full stroke pattern.

THEN....

Ah....

Chip/Pitch/Punch/Swivel/Swing!
 
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