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michigangolfer+2

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My most recent swing

I have been a member here for a few months now and in trying to absorb as much as possible and make swing changes at the same time I thought I would post a swing of mine now and see how it progresses..... I am a three handicap, trying to become a former flipper but still suffer from the affliction... Anyway I have already learned a lot from everyone here and am interested to see what you think.... I know there is a lot to work on, but all opinions are welcome. Thanks and fire away!

Here is the URL
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rM2OtcQNAk8
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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The main reason why you flip is that you don't pivot enough, rotation.

Think of your pivot like 1 of 2 things:

1) Either the accelerator
2) The brakes

Right now you are driving along in the morning, look down to grab a sip of cofee, look back up and someone has slowed down; what do you do? Slam on teh brakes and all that crap in your car that you've been meaning to take upstairs just went flying foward.

That's pretty much you right now, you are "hitting the brakes" in your swing and the club, hands, arms are all FLYING PAST YOU. You need to learn to accelerate the club so that you don't flip it anymore.
 
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daniell

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Hi Jim,

In the video, is he flipping? I thought he still had a FLW at impact when I slow it down.

cheers,

daniel
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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Just because you have a flat left wrist at impact doesn't mean you aren't flipping, you can see how be begins to "prepare" for his flip near release point and you'll see him raise up slightly to allow for it as well.
 
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Hi Jim,

Thanks. That corrected my understanding of a flipper.

Regarding your car example and putting on the brakes, I thought it was also an example to snap the kinetic chain. Think I read it in another thread. Is it because the brakes (pivot stop) was put on too early thus causing the flip? If it's slightly later, then better.

Apologise for the chain of questions and to michigangolfer for hijacking this thread.

cheers,

daniel
 
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daniell said:
Apologise for the chain of questions and to michigangolfer for hijacking this thread.

cheers,

daniel
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Not at all... That's why I put it up. :D

Jim, Thanks for the input I think I know what you are saying, Maybe a better coordination/transition between the lower body and the upper?

Thanks again...
 
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Wolfman

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Pviot and rotation

"The main reason why you flip is that you don't pivot enough, rotation."

That's pretty much you right now, you are "hitting the brakes" in your swing and the club, hands, arms are all FLYING PAST YOU. You need to learn to accelerate the club so that you don't flip it anymore.[/QUOTE]

This has been the hardest thing for me to conquer. I've read Brian's article on the pivot many times, and re-read my lesson notes, but it just ain't working.

I wish there was a comprehensive video somewhere on this. I've searched the internet for months for something.

From my untrained eye, his pivot on the forward swing looks great!

I'm beginning to hate this game more every year.
 
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Jim Kobylinski said:
Just because you have a flat left wrist at impact doesn't mean you aren't flipping, you can see how be begins to "prepare" for his flip near release point and you'll see him raise up slightly to allow for it as well.
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Well I learned something new.

So what is the difference between "flip" and "Sweep Release" then? Is there any?.....or just the lingo.

BTW I certainly don't have a Snap (late) Release either.............as far as I know, my pivot is good. Is this just something you see specifically in this guy's swing? (and what is it) I assume there is more than one thing that will cause a flip.
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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Wolfman said:
This has been the hardest thing for me to conquer. I've read Brian's article on the pivot many times, and re-read my lesson notes, but it just ain't working.

I wish there was a comprehensive video somewhere on this. I've searched the internet for months for something.

From my untrained eye, his pivot on the forward swing looks great!

I'm beginning to hate this game more every year.
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Hit chips with some follow through and maybe a slight swivel where your left wrist doesn't break down and your body is open to the target.

Then move up to pitches (only a little wrist cock), again finishing somewhere around the follow through without your left wrist breaking down.

Then finally move up to punches and full swings. You need to have this sensation that the body is leading in the downswing...like brian always says:

hips - hands - clubhead, in that order.
 
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Jared Willerson

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Jim how does this differ from the pivot brake and WANTING the arms to keep swinging left.....snapping the kinetic chain, this is what Brian and I worked on for a long time in our last lesson

Isn't that the premise of the yellow brick road? Snapping the kinetic chain, swinging left and letting the arms get that burst of speed through impact?
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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glcoach said:
Jim how does this differ from the pivot brake and WANTING the arms to keep swinging left.....snapping the kinetic chain, this is what Brian and I worked on for a long time in our last lesson

Isn't that the premise of the yellow brick road? Snapping the kinetic chain, swinging left and letting the arms get that burst of speed through impact?
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I'd like Brian to answer this because i don't think i could give you the right answer because we might end up talking about the same thing but Brian is saying it one way and i'm another.

Also, to all:

Please understand that the pivot will slow down around impact, it has too. HOWEVER we want it to slow down and not stall. Hope that makes sense.
 
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davel

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When I look at this video with the analysis software it appears the pivot is stopping because you have decided to look at the ball well after the ball is gone. That is your brake!! Let your head release with the pivot.

Dave
 
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Wolfman

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Back to the pasture!

Jim Kobylinski said:
Hit chips with some follow through and maybe a slight swivel where your left wrist doesn't break down and your body is open to the target.

Then move up to pitches (only a little wrist cock), again finishing somewhere around the follow through without your left wrist breaking down.

Then finally move up to punches and full swings. You need to have this sensation that the body is leading in the downswing...like brian always says:

hips - hands - clubhead, in that order.
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I'll get right on it as soon as I gather up all those pills I have pounded out into the pasture.

Thanks again Jim.
 
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daniell

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Hi Jim,

One more question. If I am able to maintain a FLW all the way to follow through, than it's confirmation that I did not flip. Is this the correct understanding?

thanks in advance,

daniel
 
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davel said:
When I look at this video with the analysis software it appears the pivot is stopping because you have decided to look at the ball well after the ball is gone. That is your brake!! Let your head release with the pivot.

Dave
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Thanks for the advice, but from what Jim and others have said I wonder if it as simple as that, or do I understand as more to do with an uppper body lateral move-stop-rotate action instead of a more pure rotatation correctly sequenced leaving the upper body behind while the hips start the transition rotating on their own!??! I'm lost!
 
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golfer24

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How do you view this with Analysis software. Youtube won't allow videos to be downloaded from it.

Unless you have software that does
 
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