Left Arm Movement in Backswing and Down Swing

[moorejr12]

Should there be clockwise or counter clockwise rotation of the left arm and right in the backswing? I have studied text and viewed stills and video that shows both movements on the backswing. I have praticed and played using both methods, I would appreciate any inputs on this. Thank you.

moorejr

 

[Leek]

I'm not staff, just a student. I think the answer is it depends. Do you hook? Do you slice? What's your path?

 

[jbann27]

I know I am not the original poster, but I am curious about this too. I have been working on keeping a flat left wrist at impact and practicing not to flip it, but I have now run into the issue that I am not squaring my club at impact and I am hitting a ton of push fades and slices. Am I supposed to consciously rotate my forearms?

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

ultimately, it's a "depends" answer. It has a lot to do with how you release the club and what kind of shot shape you want.

 

[Bronco Billy]

ultimately, it's a "depends" answer. It has a lot to do with how you release the club and what kind of shot shape you want.

Hi There

Very Interesting .... I'm not a TGMer which Means I Don't Know the Terminology.... CounterClockwise BackSwing as you might have Guessed is what I am Interested in..... Would you call this a pattern? What type of Release does CounterRotation Generate? Assume a Straight "Normal" Trajectory Shot.... English Please....

Cheers

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

Hi There

Very Interesting .... I'm not a TGMer which Means I Don't Know the Terminology.... CounterClockwise BackSwing as you might have Guessed is what I am Interested in..... Would you call this a pattern? What type of Release does CounterRotation Generate? Assume a Straight "Normal" Trajectory Shot.... English Please....

Cheers

What you like in "counter-rotation" is very similar to Brian's idea of "twist-away." This type of backswing will help people who over-rotate the club in the backswing and get the sweetspot too over-rotated and this will also help slices who get the clubface too open.

 

[moorejr12]

I'm not staff, just a student. I think the answer is it depends. Do you hook? Do you slice? What's your path?

My ball flight is straight. If I have a tendacy it is a power fade.

 

[Leek]

My ball flight is straight. If I have a tendacy it is a power fade.

Do you want to play a fade?

 

[Brian Manzella]

To Rotate or Not to Rotate.

There are two groups of teachers:

1. The "fan" all the time crowd.

2. The "twistaway" some of the time crowd.
​

I am in the second group.

Who needs it?

The easy answer is someone that has trouble squaring the club.

Problem with that is, it ain't that easy.

Sometimes it helps the GOOD PLAYER who flips.

Michael Jacobs told me a story about a VERY good player, a pro who wins lots of events, that needed nothing BUT the "twistaway" and then he was fixed.

Put it this way, if you are a "fan all the time" teacher, you can't possible out teach me across the board.

 

[moorejr12]

Do you want to play a fade?

My ball pattern is usually straight. I can paly a fade or draw but I would rather play a staright ball or power fade.

 

[moorejr12]

There are two groups of teachers:

1. The "fan" all the time crowd.

2. The "twistaway" some of the time crowd.
​

I am in the second group.

Who needs it?

The easy answer is someone that has trouble squaring the club.

Problem with that is, it ain't that easy.

Sometimes it helps the GOOD PLAYER who flips.

Michael Jacobs told me a story about a VERY good player, a pro who wins lots of events, that needed nothing BUT the "twistaway" and then he was fixed.

Put it this way, if you are a "fan all the time" teacher, you can't possible out teach me across the board.

Brian thank you for the reply. By fan do you mean opening the club on the backswing?

 

[Brian Manzella]

Eh....yup.

By fan do you mean opening the club on the backswing?

Yes.

I mean OPENING the face by ROTATING the right and left arms.

 

[tank]

newbie question

Yes.

I mean OPENING the face by ROTATING the right and left arms.

For those of us who consciously do not rotate the forearms either way in the back swing, do you suggest we employ the twistaway to square the club at the top? Or is it OK to just attempt to square the club with the body rotation on the downswing.

 

[tslatts]

I have found that I can hit nice slight draws with no flip if I rotate my upper left arm going through the ball. I do not consciously open the club face on the way back, especially early in the back swing, because this can lead to a lot of really bad positions for me. So if you are trying square the blade a little better give the upper left arm a try, it feels effortless and you won't flip because you don't activate the hands.

I would love to hear what this forum has to say about the thought of rotating the upper arm.

Tom

'I wish to emphasize that there are no secrets to golf.'
Ernst Jones

 

[hcw]

sounds like....

I have found that I can hit nice slight draws with no flip if I rotate my upper left arm going through the ball. I do not consciously open the club face on the way back, especially early in the back swing, because this can lead to a lot of really bad positions for me. So if you are trying square the blade a little better give the upper left arm a try, it feels effortless and you won't flip because you don't activate the hands.

I would love to hear what this forum has to say about the thought of rotating the upper arm.

Tom

'I wish to emphasize that there are no secrets to golf.'
Ernst Jones

...maybe you have found a "feel" that makes you pivot "real" well?

-hcw

 

[Bronco Billy]

I have found that I can hit nice slight draws with no flip if I rotate my upper left arm going through the ball. I do not consciously open the club face on the way back, especially early in the back swing, because this can lead to a lot of really bad positions for me. So if you are trying square the blade a little better give the upper left arm a try, it feels effortless and you won't flip because you don't activate the hands.

I would love to hear what this forum has to say about the thought of rotating the upper arm.

Tom

'I wish to emphasize that there are no secrets to golf.'
Ernst Jones

Hi There

I guess Ernst Jones was Wrong..... I am not a TGMer so I don't know the Termonology.... When you Rotate Your Left Arm with a Frozen Square Hands Thru the Golf Ball...... Isn't this a Big Ass Sweep Release ala Big Jack and Tom Watson????

Cheers