nsa backswing pivot plus swinging under the stick

[secret]

Just wondering how to combat too much body movement or shall i say using the body too much at the start of the downswing instead of using more of the arms?

I have been practicing the correct backswing pivot and just wondering if the correct feeling is like leaning to the right instead of staying centered at the top of the swing?

I am trying to copy the correct pivot brian was showing in the never slice again video but how come when i do it, i have a hard time making the downswing in a sense that i feel so tight and restricted and as if i cannot move my arms and instead i use my body?

Lastly is i've been practicing swinging under the stick and been hitting it fat and thin?

would appreciate any advice on my questions brian and company! thanks!

 

[Brian Manzella]

Real Answers...questionable questions

Just wondering how to combat too much body movement or shall i say using the body too much at the start of the downswing instead of using more of the arms?

There are golfers—and golf teachers—that promote the idea that the hands or the arms start the downswing.

Baloney!

Every 3-D machine available would make a monkey out of that idea.

In a perfect world, the hands WAIT for the pivot during start down.

I have been practicing the correct backswing pivot and just wondering if the correct feeling is like leaning to the right instead of staying centered at the top of the swing?

If you are a CAREER SLICER, you probably have a reverse-pivot as well.

Getting those golfers to make a flatter shoulder turn, a sharper hip turn, and a pivot around the spine, will help 95% of them.

But, like diet and exercise, you can over do anything.

You LEAN as much—or as little—as YOU need to, to be able to get the job done.

The NEVER SLICE AGAIN PATTERN, 1.0 on the MANZELLA MATRIX, has more top of the swing rightward axis tilt, then the 2,0 SOFT DRAW PATTERN.

By the time you get to the 5.0 NEVER HOOK AGAIN PATTERN, you are almost leaning left.

You do what you need to do.

This goes for hip turn and shoulder tilt, etc.

I am trying to copy the correct pivot brian was showing in the never slice again video but how come when i do it, i have a hard time making the downswing in a sense that i feel so tight and restricted and as if i cannot move my arms and instead i use my body?

Don't do it then.

Read the answer above.

Do what YOU need to.

Lastly is i've been practicing swinging under the stick and been hitting it fat and thin?

Then you ABSOLUTELY AREN'T swinging under the front stick as well.

Re-watch the video.

Your right shoulder need to move more forward.

[/QUOTE] I would appreciate any advice on my questions brian and company! thanks![/QUOTE]

Where did your shots go before?

 

[secret]

brian,
my shot pattern is usually straight or sometimes fade and my misses are pull and pull hooks but rarely do i slice the ball.my real problem is with my irons.i always hit them thin and sometimes the occasional fat with lack of distance and rarely do i have a divot.i felt that i was flipping it so when i watched confessions i tried it but the thing is im having a hard time leaning the shaft on impact and when doing so the ball flight is low with a lack of distance.so i figured that im swinging left too much so i tried with axis tilt from the top,then next thing i knew i was topping the ball.so i figured now that im coming from the inside im flipping it again since im not used to it.so i tried swinging under the stick and even put the stick not directly behind the ball but rather much more from its inside so i get the fat and thin shots but the ball is already taking of from the proper path.well i guess i just to keep on trying to have axis tilt and feel that and my hands are ahead of the club up to impact coming from the inside...

 

[T_Dog]

Difference Of Opinion

There are golfers—and golf teachers—that promote the idea that the hands or the arms start the downswing.

Baloney!

Tom Tomasello said that you should start the downswing by dropping your arms while keeping your hips still.

He said that your body would then react properly.

Would Tom lie us?

 

[Brian Manzella]

I wouldn't call it a lie.....but....

Tom Tomasello said that you should start the downswing by dropping your arms while keeping your hips still.

He said that your body would then react properly.

Would Tom lie us?

Nobody actually does it.

He isn't the only one who would have benefitted from being alive in the days of "biovision" the "MATT system."

 

[secret]

actually i have a friend who is a pro who advocates such idea.no knowledge about the golfswing whatsoever.self taught and hits the ball a mile and funny thing is when you ask him how he did it,he just tells me that he uses his hands to make the downswing and everything follows!!!