Making changes in my swing and would appreciate help

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lia41985

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That is my question. I swing righty and am very right side dominant. Eyes, hands, feet, etc. So does that automatically make me a hitter?

Here's why I'm asking: With the driver and fairway woods, I employed a fairly strong grip (10-2-B type, apparently) and would bend and cock both wrists to get the club to the top and then, on the downswing, would feel like I was sending my right shoulder, right knee, right index finger, and sweet spot to the ball. Down and through the ball, I would not actively roll the face, rather, I strove to keep it square--a "no roll" feel.

Although this made my game with the woods pretty good, I really struggled with the irons. I think my problem was controlling low point. My iron shots would be weak, short, fades. Sometimes, I would blade wedges. My chipping suffered although my pitching was pretty good. Is that odd?

Because of my belief that I had problems controlling low point, I experimented with a centralized pivot type feel, staying more centered, tilting the hips, straightening the right leg, but using more of a swinger's backstroke with a weaker grip. Instead of striving for width, the hands came inside sooner and went up the plane sooner as well, I feel.

Whereas previously, I used to move the clubface along the target line until my right arm hinged fully; at that point, I would turn my shoulders and send my hands to top.

Moving on, with my changes, I think my downstroke maintained some hitting tendencies. Especially with long irons, I was able to see some improved results. My wood play became different. I was playing slight draws rather than my usual straight to power fade type ball that I was used to with my old action. The new action felt tighter. If I forced it at all, the ball wouldn't do much good. Whereas with my old action, I felt like I had to go after it, to send the ball somewhere.

So the main thing I guess is that the action was more of a swing, rather than a hit, and more rotational and centered, rather than wide. The hip and shoulder tilting along with the knee straightening maybe put me on a more upright plane as well. I can't be certain because I didn't have video.

I'm lost as hell with this and could sure use any help. Thanks in advance.
 
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lia41985

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Unfortunately, I don't have access to a video camera. Sorry. I know it's quite hard to diagnose and remedy problems without visuals. Any insights would be appreciated. Thank you.
 
I'm a swinger that uses a lot of right hand participation. Why not learn a right arm swinging procedure? I've tried with some success to tame my right arm, but it's unnatural and silly to do so. Why handicap your strong side... golf is a silly, confusing, biomechanically flawed game.
 

lia41985

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Thanks for your input. I would say in response: I have no idea how to implement a right arm swinging procedure!
 

Kevin Shields

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As for your chipping getting worse and not your pitching. Low point on chips is past the ball ( you said you have low point issues) and low point on pitches (at least for good players) is under the ball with the back edge skidding.
 

lia41985

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Kevin,
Makes perfect sense! Thanks.

Guys,
This place, this forum I mean, is just so great. I can think analytically and productively about my swing. Brian's smartened so many of us up so that we can help each other so much. Thanks and keep the input coming! By the way, this clip by Mr. Ben Doyle: http://www.bgtt.org/video/2006clip-doyle.html
helped me to realize that I was swinging the club like a baseball bat! Ay! I need to check out Brian's building blocks video I think...I have no idea how to really play this game...sigh...
 
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What is wrong with having a golf stroke that is similar to a baseball swing as long as you maintain a FLW and bent right wrist at impact?
 

lia41985

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I think what Ben means by his baseball swing comment is that a golfer who swings the club like a baseball bat is a golfer that has a swing without enough clubhead rotation around the shaft.
 
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