tell us your "a-ha" thoughts

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pieman

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does anyone have any ''a-ha" thoughts that just seemed to click with you in fixing a problem or keying in on a swing thought or idea? would like to hear the problem, and then what was the remedy that just 'worked' for you.
 
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Kevin Shields

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I used to have a strong grip and kept the clubface open for a long time in the downswing and went almost right palm up through impact. Brian had me feel as if the right palm always faces away from me so that the sweetspot of the club is always turning off the plane avoiding any kind of flip.
 
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doubled said:
I used to have a strong grip and kept the clubface open for a long time in the downswing and went almost right palm up through impact. Brian had me feel as if the right palm always faces away from me so that the sweetspot of the club is always turning off the plane avoiding any kind of flip.
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Can you describe this in more detail i.e the palm is facing away from your body to increase the bend in the wrist?
 
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Good idea for a thread

1) Going to a neutral grip for sure.

2) Second was going back to impact hands at setup. I feel like I pre-program my 'puter by establishing what impact fix feels like.
 
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dsmith2296

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I had this same Eureka! type moment, but it came when I used a very weak right hand grip, too-- pointing to my left shoulder and well on top of the club. This for most people would feel like to would push the ball out way right, but I can backhand smash the ball with full roll and still hit a fade.

Also, that grip makes it anatomically more difficult to go past parallel at the top.

How weak is your right hand grip and does what I describe make sense?

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Neutral grip, right palm facing away the entire swing. The Holy Grail.
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dsmith2296

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I had this same Eureka! type moment, but it came when I used a very weak right hand grip, too-- pointing to my left shoulder and well on top of the club. This for most people would feel like you would push the ball out way right, but I can backhand smash the ball with full roll and still hit a fade.

Also, that grip makes it anatomically more difficult to go past parallel at the top.

How weak is your right hand grip and does what I describe make sense?

doubled said:
Neutral grip, right palm facing away the entire swing. The Holy Grail.
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Kevin Shields

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golfspike said:
Can you describe this in more detail i.e the palm is facing away from your body to increase the bend in the wrist?
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Yes. It increases the bend in the wrist. It turns the sweetspot off the plane. It makes the club trail your body. It forces your body to keep up with the clubhead(no flip). It makes it harder to go under plane. Like I said, if you learn it with a true neutral grip it is the Holy Grail move. It solves so many problems by itself.
 
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My "lightbulbs":

Neutral grip............

Twistaway.....

Lagging clubhead takeaway.....loose shoulders...

Axis tilt & "left shoulder up" to "hit it".......

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Nowadays:

Trace more outside with backswing. (sometimes with steeper shoulder turn)

"Swing more left."

(after so long of focusing on delaying my release, tilting, working my pivot, creating speed, and compressing it I am back to trying to trace a plane line that points more left)

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With putting......eyes over the line..........bent over like Jack.........trace straight plane line...
 
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doubled said:
Yes. It increases the bend in the wrist. It turns the sweetspot off the plane. It makes the club trail your body. It forces your body to keep up with the clubhead(no flip). It makes it harder to go under plane. Like I said, if you learn it with a true neutral grip it is the Holy Grail move. It solves so many problems by itself.
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Thanks Kevin great advice Im wondering if a person tries the same move while trying connect the upper part of the right arm to the side of the chest throught the impact zone it may also add a little bit of right wrist cock
 
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My "A HA" moment came a few years ago when I realized that the "Ball Flight Laws" as taught by the PGA of America were wrong, especially when analyzing starting direction and curvature.
 
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Roamer

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My a-ha moment was when I was told that NSA, Flipper, & BB's are three different patterns and the cause of my decline.

My wish, hope, & prayer are that I will have several positive a-ha moments finding my place in the Manzella Matrix.
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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1) getting the right shoulder to go downplane WHILE tracing a straight plane line.
2) understanding that with a 3 inside out path and a 1 open clubface you are actually 2 closed to the path
3) inside aft of the ball is over rated, understand that you dont hit the exact back of the ball with a square face but its not hitting the ball at 430.
4) aim left swing while trying to swing right
 
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