Hogan's Way Flat Shoulder Turn

[dsmith2296]

In the spirit of Hogan debates, I declare Hogan had the flattest of all flat shoulder turns.

In support of this declaration, I submit the following:

YouTube - Ben Hogan Swing

Take notice that his right shoulder is at grid line #5 and his left shoulder is half-way between 5 & 6. This is because the right hand is lower than the left. Now a perfectly flat shoulder turn will put the left shoulder where the right shoulder was. This actually necessitates that the left shoulder move downward on the backswing to be even with gridline #5. In order to accomplish this, his head must also lower a little and go back a little.

Therefore, I believe Hogan to have as flat of a shoulder turn as possible. I also insist that it is this flat shoulder turn coupled with the left arm being higher than the right that allows him to get in that famous laid-off, right elbow tucked position as seen from down the line.

How do you like them apples?

 

[Deadly_Scope]

Not because it has anything to do with what your saying (except for related to Ben Hogan) - this is one of my favourite vids on youtube just now

YouTube - Hogan's Mystique

 

[vjcapron]

You can't even come close to accurately measuring the degree of steepness of shoulder turn from a face-on view of the golf swing.

 

[mclare]

Hogan's posture and height had something to do with his shoulder plane.

 

[Burner]

And the ball knew no difference as to how the club head got there; but sure as h3ll felt it.

 

[pecky987]

why do you think everyone thinks hogan was a "one planer"

he still reached a TSP position, but because his shoulder turn was so flat, it looks very flat

 

[tongzilla]

Hogan wasn't a one planer. But his Double Shift was VERY perfect.

 

[Dariusz J.]

Pecky, noone on Earth can perform a full swing on one single plane due to specifics of the human body. It is simple an artificial term that shows (according to the inventor of the theory) that the lead arm is parallel to shoulders level at the top (and not higher).

Cheers

 

[pecky987]

Hogan wasn't a one planer. But his Double Shift was VERY perfect.

Pecky, noone on Earth can perform a full swing on one single plane due to specifics of the human body. It is simple an artificial term that shows (according to the inventor of the theory) that the lead arm is parallel to shoulders level at the top (and not higher).

Cheers

i am perfectly aware that hogan was not a one planer, and did not swing on one single plane throughout the swing. he had the most classic double shifts.

what i was saying is that he looks very flat becasue his shoulder turn is pretty much the flattest of any truly great players. this flat shoulder turn made his turned shoulder plane also very flat. he did locate the TSP at the top, but because it looks very flat, many people incorrectly think he was a "one planer" or "zero shifter" or "single planer".

he wasnt.

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