What makes life easier for you Mark does not categorise the differences in stroke patterns between Hitters and Swingers.
Think in terms of Axe Handles, Drive Loading and a Right Arm Throw for a Hitter but Rope Handles, Drag Loading and a Wrist Throw for Swingers.
The stroke components have varied, you will notice, only in relation to hands and arms and whether they are pulling, Drag Loading for Swingers or pushing, Drive Loading for Hitters.
There are no shoulder turn, pivot, hip turn, hip action, knee action
or foot action variations between either pattern. Indeed, you can perform as a Hitter and equally as well as a Swinger whilst on your knees or sitting on a stool.
Your feet are for standing on, period. How you choose to stand may be personal but not essential to, or indicative of, your chosen stroke pattern. But, if it helps
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I think its about making the judgement yourself as the teacher. I have learned from certain guys to distinguish between hitting and swinging and the two have very different fundamentals from the get go.
Through coaching some decent players and making the call between acertaining a hittter and a swinger, i have seen better results when sticking to the basic fundamentals of the two patterns. At the end of the day you as the teacher make that call for the good or better will come out in the lesson and we are all learning every day on the tee- box.
Thanks for backing up your comments though with some good stuff lots to be learned from it
as my fellow tyke says, the learning stars here!
first of all, it is pretty agreed around here that there is no hitters or swingers. seen as every player who can hit the ball a long way both push and pull. there is no such thing as pure hitting.
i agree ther are hitting and swinging ELEMENTS. pitch elbow and push elbow are examples of things you'd associate with swinging and hitting.
with regards to teaching with these principles, i think someone who over manipulates the club would benefit from learning hitting elements, and doing them consciously and on perpose, and then when they learn these things and they become automatic, intergrating more swinging elements can maximise your power, speed and ultimatley your golf swing.
with regards to PCH and HCP, i wont go into too much detail as i dont want to hijack this thread. therefore i'll go very simple as to what HCP and PCH actually are.
PCH is where your hands are clamps. and that is all they are. you work purely on the pivot - feer, knees, hips, shoulder, torso etc - and where ever your arms are flung is where they go. you do not care at all about aiming point, release point, where your hands are at the top, hinge action - anything.
you can generate alot of power doing this, but not as much as you could, and will be very inaccurate.
HCP is knowing and monitoring where the hands are, where they go and what they are doing. it is NOT using your hands only. this can include alot of pivot participation, or very little.
every good swing i feel should have some degree of monitoring of the hands, to make sure they go into the right places and do the right things.
it is wrong to call HCP hitting, and PCH swinging. an absolute pure swinger, with no force across the shaft, a sequenced release, standard pivot, horizontal hinging (not that that exists either
) and every aspect you'd associate with swinging, you could and should still be monitoring the hands. see bobby jones.
like burner said, you are definately in a great place to learn. hope this helps
