Which pattern is best? -- pulls and shanks

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Bonesy

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My flip is eliminated. I'm striping the ball now, but also pulling it big time. I've been working on tracing a better plan (I think I am UP now), and that helped for a while. Until..

Saturday when I hit an entire bucket of shanks.

I've got all Brian's videos .. which one applies?
 
vjsinger

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If you posted your swing it would be easier to get a good suggestion from someone. Why?? I thought I wasn't throwing away for about a month, conclusion WRONG. I was and needed someone to point it out and tell me how to fix it.
 
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savydan

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Bonesy said:
My flip is eliminated. I'm striping the ball now, but also pulling it big time. I've been working on tracing a better plan (I think I am UP now), and that helped for a while. Until..

Saturday when I hit an entire bucket of shanks.

I've got all Brian's videos .. which one applies?
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None of them?
 
Guitar Hero

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This is my favorite pattern of Brian's as it teaches many solid fundamentals. I would work on the Twist-Away move and you will start lagging the sweet spot on the down swing. Shanks will disappear. Also this is a great pattern to always have in your bag. If you are having problems on the course you can go to this pattern and save a round.
 
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Guitar Hero said:
NSA 2.0

This is my favorite pattern of Brian's as it teaches many solid fundamentals. I would work on the Twist-Away move and you will start lagging the sweet spot on the down swing. Shanks will disappear. Also this is a great pattern to always have in your bag. If you are having problems on the course you can go to this pattern and save a round.
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By NSA "pattern" what components are you suggesting make it a "pattern"? To me it is a list of optional things to help you correct a slice. Many times Brian says you may only need one thing, like change the grip and boom no slice. I love the points and as you suggest are great fundamentals but if you employ them all without regarding what the ball flight is doing most people will hook it off the range/course. This is different in the other patterns NHA and SD. Most of their components are required for their patterns (some optional), making them patterns. I agree that the couple of suggestions from the NSA might help this person, but I just don't see NSA as a true "pattern".

Steve
 
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niblick1

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Bolt said:
By NSA "pattern" what components are you suggesting make it a "pattern"? To me it is a list of optional things to help you correct a slice. Many times Brian says you may only need one thing, like change the grip and boom no slice. I love the points and as you suggest are great fundamentals but if you employ them all without regarding what the ball flight is doing most people will hook it off the range/course. This is different in the other patterns NHA and SD. Most of their components are required for their patterns (some optional), making them patterns. I agree that the couple of suggestions from the NSA might help this person, but I just don't see NSA as a true "pattern".

Steve
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I think that's right. You fix the clubface first until you don't slice, then you need the rest of the components for a full swing pattern to address path and pivot. As Brian says, you can do some some twist-away (and other NSA fixes, too) with other full swing patterns. I experiment all the time with the less open position of twistaway with SD pattern.

I wonder how many people need NHA? I tend to think of it as a fix for people who are very good with great pivots. I'd bet Brian starts a lot more people on SD than NHA2. I'd like to hear those percentages.
 
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Bronco Billy

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niblick1 said:
I think that's right. You fix the clubface first until you don't slice, then you need the rest of the components for a full swing pattern to address path and pivot. As Brian says, you can do some some twist-away (and other NSA fixes, too) with other full swing patterns. I experiment all the time with the less open position of twistaway with SD pattern.
I wonder how many people need NHA? I tend to think of it as a fix for people who are very good with great pivots. I'd bet Brian starts a lot more people on SD than NHA2. I'd like to hear those percentages.
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Niblick Comes Out of the Closet.....:eek:
 
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niblick1

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Bronco Billy said:
Niblick Comes Out of the Closet.....:eek:
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Oh, I try everything, BB.

I've never been a critic of counter-rotation, just those who treated it like it's a big secret.

I've got my pattern I think of as my Bubba Watson pattern with a wedding ring up finish plus some twist away i try from time-to-time on the range. I hit the heck out the ball. I just can't quite figure out where the ball is going. I wish I could.

Bronco, you better read Brian's old note last week about the new posting rules. I don't want you going the way as some other former posters...
 
cmartingolf

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Bonesy,

Two issues:

Pulls - you need a bit more axis tilt if it's a true pull. Hip bone staying infront of the neck bone (to paraphrase the Paisano).

Shankapotomus - On your down swing, feel like the butt of the club can hit the rivot on the left pocket of your favorite jeans (not while at the CC of course;))
 
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Bonesy,

Two issues:

Pulls - you need a bit more axis tilt if it's a true pull. Hip bone staying infront of the neck bone (to paraphrase the Paisano).

Shankapotomus - On your down swing, feel like the butt of the club can hit the rivot on the left pocket of your favorite jeans (not while at the CC of course;))
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Well said. Great info.
 
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Kevin Shields

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cmartingolf said:
Bonesy,

Two issues:

Pulls - you need a bit more axis tilt if it's a true pull. Hip bone staying infront of the neck bone (to paraphrase the Paisano).

Shankapotomus - On your down swing, feel like the butt of the club can hit the rivot on the left pocket of your favorite jeans (not while at the CC of course;))
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Greta tips separate from one another. My question is wouldn't he lose axis tilt trying the second one?
 
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