Too much across the line?

[JJKing]

What would suggest that a player is too far across the line at the top? If so how would you go about changing it?

I ask because I have an exaggerated SD type backswing with high hands, a lot of flying elbow and a shaft pointing across my left shoulder at the top. My downswing is basically down through my neck shallowing out all the way. I struggle with hooks, blocks, shots off the toe and some fat stuff. Any ideas from anyone here would be great. Can't post any video right now due to the huge amount of snow we have had.

 

[Kevin Shields]

In my view, you are too far across the line only when that is the root of your problem.

Two examples:
Poorer players who lift or improperly hinge their wrists to get it across the line and never load the club into their hands, then stay across/steep all the way down and try to back it under the ball extremely late causing one big poop sandwich.

Others, who cross the line will reverse tumble to lay it on the plane and load the pressure, tend to not be able to do a late tumble ala Carl Petterson, and the club approaches underneath and the blocks and hooks result.

 

[mb6606]

Would you not want to be slighly across the line when swinging the driver??
This would set you on the correct path of swinging right - just make sure your AA is positive.

 

[Kevin Shields]

I thought the question was how do you know when you're TOO MUCH across the line.

 

[mb6606]

I thought the question was how do you know when you're TOO MUCH across the line.

Correct - I am asking a question along the same theme no intention to threadjack.

 

[ej20]

. My downswing is basically down through my neck shallowing out all the way.

This was basically Jack Nicklauses swing.

If this is not working for you,then try for a more neutral position at the top.Don't fly the right elbow and shorten the arm swing a bit.

 

[leon]

Poorer players who lift or improperly hinge their wrists to get it across the line and never load the club into their hands, then stay across/steep all the way down and try to back it under the ball extremely late causing one big poop sandwich.

So you've seen my swing then!

 

[jenhaoyen]

In my view, you are too far across the line only when that is the root of your problem.

Two examples:
Poorer players who lift or improperly hinge their wrists to get it across the line and never load the club into their hands, then stay across/steep all the way down and try to back it under the ball extremely late causing one big poop sandwich.

Others, who cross the line will reverse tumble to lay it on the plane and load the pressure, tend to not be able to do a late tumble ala Carl Petterson, and the club approaches underneath and the blocks and hooks result.

Kevin,

How do you know if you have the club load into your hands properly?

 

[jenhaoyen]

In my view, you are too far across the line only when that is the root of your problem.

Two examples:
Poorer players who lift or improperly hinge their wrists to get it across the line and never load the club into their hands, then stay across/steep all the way down and try to back it under the ball extremely late causing one big poop sandwich.

Others, who cross the line will reverse tumble to lay it on the plane and load the pressure, tend to not be able to do a late tumble ala Carl Petterson, and the club approaches underneath and the blocks and hooks result.

I just watched Carl Petterson's swing, that's exactly how i feel when he swings the club.

HOW DO I FIX THIS. I still can't tumble correctly

When I try to tumble the club, I hit it fat instantly

 

[DCgolf]

If across the line resulting in steep shaft, shallow angle is the problem, a simple mantra might be: "point left, hit left" ...

 

[jenhaoyen]

In my view, you are too far across the line only when that is the root of your problem.

Two examples:
Poorer players who lift or improperly hinge their wrists to get it across the line and never load the club into their hands, then stay across/steep all the way down and try to back it under the ball extremely late causing one big poop sandwich.

Others, who cross the line will reverse tumble to lay it on the plane and load the pressure, tend to not be able to do a late tumble ala Carl Petterson, and the club approaches underneath and the blocks and hooks result.

is solving the problem by opening the club a little on a backswing and tumble on the downswing?

From what I have tried, if you have underrottaed left arm, you would need to open the club (reverse tumble) on the downswing...am i correct?

 

[Kevin Shields]

It will often open itself due to downplane pulling forces. The key is to keep the handpath consistently going down and left to tumble the club and to keep it from falling underplane. No one does it better than Carl Petersen. This was Retief's problem in recent years....across the line to backed up underneath. Although not at Southern Hills, something changed from then and the last round at Pinehurst.

But I digress.....