Heard he got sick of just doing the same drills. Wanted a change. Thought maybe a change might help him up his game.
His game is pretty much the same. Great ball striking, mediocre putting.
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Heard he got sick of just doing the same drills. Wanted a change. Thought maybe a change might help him up his game.
His game is pretty much the same. Great ball striking, mediocre putting.
Erik_K
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Clay (I think that is your name), I'll look at these later and comment. I met your folks once again at PGA and had a blast at dinner.
Did your (or dad) tell you the story about how Big Al was left on the range all alone? We were about to leave and your mom asks me,
"Erik, where's Al?
"He said you were going to pick him up?"
"Oh...he did?..."
Then I hopped back into the cart and rolled down the back end of the range where your dad was chipping balls despite getting eaten alive by the mosquitoes!
birdie_man
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I'll see if I can get out to the range this weekend and take some new video.
birdie_man
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BTW you should post yours too Monsieur Inconsistente'.
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huestisc
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Hi Erik,
No, I didn't hear that story but my Dad said he had a great time and he and my mom especially enjoyed the dinner.
Clay
Erik_K
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Nice swing here. I'd like to see the belly view.
mjstrong
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EDIT: Taped the swing again today, this time from the belly view as well. In order to help with any comments, I generally align myself a little open, and "block" the ball towards the target, favouring a fairly straight ball flight. I try not to have too much movement on it one way or another.
Comments welcome. Cheers and Thank you!
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James Marshall (Hogan1953)
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Not being able to stop the video and play it frame by frame I'm recluctant to be categorical but in my modest opinion I would suggest that from the down the line view that the club goes a little too far inside on the backswing and ends up slightly below the turned shoulder plane. In the downswing you keep it a little inside. Stop the swing when the left arm is parallel to the ground in the downswing and I think you'll see that the left arm is a fraction too far inside the downswing baseline, which is parallel to your target line. Check again when the shaft is parallel to the ground, it may be a little inside too. To improve that you need to feel the left shoulder moving down and back at the start of the downswing, this helps to get the left arm out. Hope this helps.
James
James
StewartBannatyne
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Here is my swing from earlier this month...Comments welcome!
Face On:
Down The Line:
Stew
Face On:
Down The Line:
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Here's mine...
Comments appreciated..
Front view: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym4eeDXDsBE
Down the line: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1stZEFeUhdQ
No need to be kind, there's some obvious flaws there....
Comments appreciated..
Front view: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym4eeDXDsBE
Down the line: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1stZEFeUhdQ
No need to be kind, there's some obvious flaws there....
mjstrong
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a little extra help
Speaking from a teacher's point of view, it always helps if a student mentions what their ball flight is like. These videos aren't always detailed enough to be able to pick out things like the clubface when it's moving so fast.
Example: I generally play a fade, but when I miss a shot I usually pull the ball.
Something like that. It can help narrow down any recommendations a teacher may make.
Mark
Speaking from a teacher's point of view, it always helps if a student mentions what their ball flight is like. These videos aren't always detailed enough to be able to pick out things like the clubface when it's moving so fast.
Example: I generally play a fade, but when I miss a shot I usually pull the ball.
Something like that. It can help narrow down any recommendations a teacher may make.
Mark
I generally hit the ball straight but pull straight left when I miss. Occasionally with the driver I hit a pull hook
Perfect Impact
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That ball flight would be expected sometimes from your down the line view. There is a "creeping" of the right shoulder around early in the downswing. You can either handle that by setting up a bit closeder, or eliminate the early turnout. If your transition and early downswing procedure is so grooved that to make a change would really be revolutionary, it is easier to set up ever so little more closed. Your path does seem to be a bit right to left, and that is not a bad thing: it matches our anatomy. If it was me or my pupil, I would simply use the advantage of the greater strength and speed I would have USING my pull tendency. Actually a pull is mechanically more powerful than the opposite - an open stance 'push.' Aligning that "natural tendency" swing is an extremely small setup adjustment!
PI, thanks for your comments. I agree entirely that I fight a turnout of my right shoulder on the transition. I'm working on correcting it, any tips for that? In the meantime, when I'm playing, I set up closed to compensate as you suggest. But I'd rather do it correctly i.e set up square and hit it where I'm aiming. Any ideas for me to work on?
Thanks again.
Perfect Impact
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Setting up closeder is not doing anything wrong: it is simply CORRECTLY ALIGNING your natural swing path with the intended target line. I say this because your extremely small outward movement of your right shoulder is almost negligible: so much so that I would NOT want to change you if you feel good swinging. It is OPTICAL -- the change of alignment, not MECHANICAL.
I understand your "fear of embedding wrong motions" but you don't swing wronger than Trevino, Nicklaus, Furyk, or Couples. These men adapted their stance TO THEIR OWN ANATOMY.
Next time you see DLIII on the tee, note how his feet are aligned; WAY CLOSED. He is another who doesn't fight himself: it is just common sense.
If you are determined to keep your right shoulder back, just do indoor easy swing drills with sawed off clubs and watch your down the line movement in a mirror or in video playback, to monitor that you do NOT go out with your shoulder. It is really a very small adjustment compared to what's on that vid...
I understand your "fear of embedding wrong motions" but you don't swing wronger than Trevino, Nicklaus, Furyk, or Couples. These men adapted their stance TO THEIR OWN ANATOMY.
Next time you see DLIII on the tee, note how his feet are aligned; WAY CLOSED. He is another who doesn't fight himself: it is just common sense.
If you are determined to keep your right shoulder back, just do indoor easy swing drills with sawed off clubs and watch your down the line movement in a mirror or in video playback, to monitor that you do NOT go out with your shoulder. It is really a very small adjustment compared to what's on that vid...
StewartBannatyne
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My swing videos are posted above, but as was requested, my misses are generally pulls. Normal ball flight is a very slight draw with the irons and three wood, and quite straight to a little fade with the driver.
Stew
Stew
mjstrong
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Very good points, agreed. From the Down the Line view, judging by how your (Mick's) clubhead looks in your finish, you have a very strong left handed grip. A tough change to make, but if you are still missing the ball left (with pulls or pull-hooks), you may look at making even a slight adjustment by making that left hand a little weaker. Again, some people have a difficult time adjusting to the change in feel.
MJ & PI thanks again for your comments.
PI, I appreciate what you're saying, but a lot of the time I hit it straight at the target I (think) I'm aiming at. What would then cause the odd pull left? A more pronounced outwoard movement of the right shoulder? My thinking is that if I could stop that movement entirely then maybe I'd stop that occassional pull left.
MJ, agree with your comments re left hand grip. Good spot. I'm currently working on weakening it after watching Brian's NSA 2.0 video. Trying to set my grip like he recommends.
I also noticed my pivot has become very head centered, whereas I know in the past it's been more like Brian's recommended pivot around the top of the spine where the head appears to move right about half a head's width. Any comments on that?
Thanks again
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