Dynamics of a draw.

[mb6606]

In order to hit a true draw to the target line with a normal stance.

The clubhead path must be inside out (a push).
The clubface must be slightly closed at seperation (hook spin).
Am I correct?

 

[self-mastery]

dunno, but I bet JIM does!

I just hit it while thinking about my navel, and it somehow ends up on the left side of the golf course.

I use to hit a true draw, but now days I let it rip. I set up on the right side of the tee box, and watch it drift 10-15 yards left...

Darn it Im not help...

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

I think it really depends on your defination of a draw. Is that something that starts right of target line and draws back to your target line?

Is it something that starts down your target line and falls left of it?

So many things to consider, i just kind of leave it like this:

If you want the ball to curve left, just make sure the face is closed at separation. If you want the ball to curve right just make sure the face is open at separation.

The more the spin you want the more you rotate the plane line. That's what i do.

 

[shortgamer]

The ball starts where the face is pointing and then curves relative to the path of the clubhead. If the face is square at seperation and the path is inside out the ball starts at the target and curves left. If face is closed at seperation the ball starts left of intended target which means you would have to aim right which I think Jim forgot to mention. *Also wouldn't work for a high draw.

 

[puttmad]

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The ball starts where the face is pointing and then curves relative to the path of the clubhead. If the face is square at seperation and the path is inside out the ball starts at the target and curves left. If face is closed at seperation the ball starts left of intended target which means you would have to aim right which I think Jim forgot to mention. *Also wouldn't work for a high draw.

Actually SG, from a prevoius thread it was noted that the ball does not go square to where the face is aiming if the swing path is not square too.

It is 80/20 face/path...
So if you are aiming/swinging on a line 10 degrees right of target, with your clubface aiming/separation directly at the target, the ball will set off at 2 degrees right of target and then draw....

 

[shortgamer]

Actually SG, from a prevoius thread it was noted that the ball does not go square to where the face is aiming if the swing path is not square too.

It is 80/20 face/path...
So if you are aiming/swinging on a line 10 degrees right of target, with your clubface aiming/separation directly at the target, the ball will set off at 2 degrees right of target and then draw....

I totally agree with that but for all intensive purposes the face dominates path for initial direction.

 

[puttmad]

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I totally agree with that but for all intensive purposes the face dominates path for initial direction.

That's what I said!...but more precisely...
If you aim right and then set your clubface at the target and then swing pefectly on path and have your cluface perfectly at the terget at impact/separation, you will end up left of target...
So I was was trying to explain that effectively you have to aim your clubface slightly right of target to end up on the target.(hopefully)..

 

[bts]

clubface closed or closing to clubhead path during impact for a right-to-left spin

In order to hit a true draw to the target line with a normal stance.

I take it as launching slightly to the right of target and turning left and landing back at the target.

The clubhead path must be inside out (a push).

Correct. A lot inside-out, actually. Let's say 4 degree to the right of the target line.

The clubface must be slightly closed at seperation (hook spin).
Am I correct?

Well..., not quite. Presumbly, the clubface is 3 or less degree open (or 1 or more degree closed to the clubhead path) to the right at impact and still 2 or 1 degree open (still closed or closing to the clubhead path) to the right at separation.

The opposite is for a left-to-right spin.

 

[Brian Manzella]

Climate...

BTS is right....must be El Nino...

From a square stance:

Path needs to be 4 to 6 degrees inside-out, with the clubface about halfs as "pointing to the right" (Open).

If the face were closed to the target at separation, the ball would start left.