Driver Set Up

[jbrunk]

Question for anyone really, but mainly for the clubfitters/teachers:

Traditionally I have played an 8.5 degree driver mainly because I had a flip and a steep swing that hit the ball very high.

I have since eliminated/reduced both and am hitting my driver very low, like irons almost. In 2 rounds I estimate I have lost 15-20 yards due to the low trajectory. Should I go to a higher loft, or just work on adding axis tilt until I get the desired flight?

Thanks

 

[Bigwill]

It would depend on your swing. If you don't need more axis tilt, then you need more loft. If the problem is axis tilt, then you'd want to fix that, then reevaluate your ballflight. May be a good idea to post your driver swing head-on, so the guys on here can take a look at it.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

Question for anyone really, but mainly for the clubfitters/teachers:

Traditionally I have played an 8.5 degree driver mainly because I had a flip and a steep swing that hit the ball very high.

I have since eliminated/reduced both and am hitting my driver very low, like irons almost. In 2 rounds I estimate I have lost 15-20 yards due to the low trajectory. Should I go to a higher loft, or just work on adding axis tilt until I get the desired flight?

Thanks

No you need more loft and get a shaft that fine tunes the launch/spin conditions. Same thing happened to me.

Started off as a slicer who used the Never Slice Again pattern and was using Angled Hinging. So i was able to get a 8.25* driver to launcin the 12.5-13.0* range with spin in the 2700-2800rpm range. On my best swings it was good for aboug 290 or so.

As my stroke got better and i became a full roller with less leakage i was only launching in in the 10* range but with spin in the 2200rpm range which isn't optimal except for maybe the Texas wind .

So i moved to a much more higher launching head (Cleveland Comp) and went up almost 2* in loft and fine tuned the shaft to get my spin rate down.

Hope that helps.

 

[Ringer]

I don't know how many times I've said this over my career....

Get the clubs that fit the swing you WANT to have.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

I don't know how many times I've said this over my career....

Get the clubs that fit the swing you WANT to have.

Ringer you have to understand that as your swing PROGRESSES into something better your equiptment WILL have to change.

If you are an open face hacker who swings too far to the left you are going to use a lower lofted driver for a while to make it go anywhere until you fix those issues. Then over time as you fix them it won't fit anymore and you get something else that does.

 

[Ringer]

Ringer you have to understand that as your swing PROGRESSES into something better your equiptment WILL have to change.

If you are an open face hacker who swings too far to the left you are going to use a lower lofted driver for a while to make it go anywhere until you fix those issues. Then over time as you fix them it won't fit anymore and you get something else that does.

I would say you need to change the equipment FIRST. Although not always practical, it would be ideal.

Give the student the reward of a good shot for a good swing. Anything else is just bandaids and a prolonging of improvement.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

I would say you need to change the equipment FIRST. Although not always practical, it would be ideal.

Give the student the reward of a good shot for a good swing. Anything else is just bandaids and a prolonging of improvement.

Then i guess you call manzella's style of instruction band-aid golf? Listen, I know you have your passion about fixing your equiptment first. That's fine, nothing wrong with that. Brian's way of teaching tends to get faster results with fixing the swing first.

We can agree to disagree but don't call Brian's type of instruction band-aid golf because well, it isn't.

 

[Ringer]

Then i guess you call manzella's style of instruction band-aid golf? Listen, I know you have your passion about fixing your equiptment first. That's fine, nothing wrong with that. Brian's way of teaching tends to get faster results with fixing the swing first.

We can agree to disagree but don't call Brian's type of instruction band-aid golf because well, it isn't.

So you think Brian teaching people to hit it poorly with a good swing?