How many slicers swing too far to the right?

[Brian Manzella]

How many slicers swing too far to the right?

In 25 years, I never saw more than a couple dozen.

How many hookers swing too far left?

In 25 years, I only remember one.

At the end of the day folks, you either have the face too open, or too closed, you swing too far to the right, or too far to the left, your swing bottom (low point) is either too far in front of the ball, or too far behind it.

Everything else is secondary.

That's what a teacher should adjust first in a lesson. Make the swing shape better.

I have personally watched every lesson I have ever given, and I rarely get golfers who swing too far to the left to swing further left.

Not that some golfers who ONCE swung too far right, might not EVENTUALLY swing too far left. It is part of learning, that sometimes you over-learn.

Even the very best golfers work back to center from "the sides" all the time.

Of course, if you have something else to sell. You might not use this common sense approach.

 

[bcoak]

My tendency is to get the ball too far forward, causing alot of movement forward and a slice. Any tips on getting ball posiiotn correct?

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

My tendency is to get the ball too far forward, causing alot of movement forward and a slice. Any tips on getting ball posiiotn correct?

here's something i do with students who struggle with this:

I put them into impact "pose" with all the accompanying body angles, axis tilt, on plane forearm/shoulder, etc.

Then i ask them, "well can you PHYSICALLY think you can get in that position i just put you in?" Most of them who have the ball too foward will say "no."

So solution: We either narrow the stance or move the ball position back until the answer is "yes." Each golfer likes either one better than the other.

The important part is getting into your "impact pose" CORRECTLY.

 

[Martee]

At the end of the day folks, you either have the face too open, or too closed, you swing too far to the right, or too far to the left, your swing bottom (low point) is either too far in front of the ball, or too far behind it.

Everything else is secondary.

Now that IMO may sound obvious when stated, is probably one of, if not the most understated and understood statement. This would make for a good seminar for instructors to attend...

Nicely worded...


Although you might cringe if you were to see my pull hook that appears every once an awhile. It can easily cross three counties before falling back to the ground... Fortunately it seems to only show up about 1 in 30 tee shots...

 

[bcoak]

"At the end of the day folks, you either have the face too open, or too closed, you swing too far to the right, or too far to the left, your swing bottom (low point) is either too far in front of the ball, or too far behind it.

Everything else is secondary."

I assume these faults are not mutually exclusive and a golfer can have a combo of these or not?
If you can have a few of these, do some tend to group themselves more often and what do they produce?

 

[Toolish]

too far left and open clubface will group...as will too far right and closed clubface...as they are compensations that cover each other, people tend to learn compensations over time if they have been doing something wrong.

 

[Brian Manzella]

Teaching Golf vs. Selling a Product

"At the end of the day folks, you either have the face too open, or too closed, you swing too far to the right, or too far to the left, your swing bottom (low point) is either too far in front of the ball, or too far behind it." —Brian Manzella, PGA, G.S.E.D.

Brilliant.

I could add:

"You generate enough force, or not enough."

This is why what I do is TEACH GOLFERS. I do not "sell a swing." Or two.

Get at the root cause, kill the damn problem dead. You can always adjust back.

Most teachers just patch their prefernces over an already LEARNED swing.