Is Elk a Soulder or a forearm takeaway Man

[addamsmith]

Hi Guy's
Is Elkington is a Shoulder takaway or a Right forearm takeaway player. I can see both moves in his swing.
Thanks Addam

 

[addamsmith]

Brian are you able to tell me what you think.
I beleive he is a right arm takeaway player from 15 video's I have of him but, I have six other swings of him with a long iron's and a driver that looks in them as if he is more a shoulder man. I know he has changed his swing a bit. Are you able to give me your opinion on this please.
Thanks
Addam

 

[Wilkie]

Hello Addam

Steve says in his book that he keeps his arms lightly attached to his chest and,to start the backswing, he simply turns his chest.

Cheers

Wilkie

 

[birdie_man]

Honestly.....I don't think many guys on tour use solely the RF to take it back.

I could be wrong but I think the majority use their torso in one way or another......i.e. lots of guys seem to place their attention on the left shuolder.

Again I could be wrong because I haven't asked anyone to be sure (per se)......but from what I have read.....and also- I'll say "I have a feeling"......

 

[addamsmith]

Thanks Guy
I know Robert Elkington really well ( steve's brother) and I asked him once how do you think steve takes his club away and he said he thinks it is a bit of both shoulder and forearm take away move. So the Chest move makes a lot of sense. I have lots of footage of Steve and being a pro here in Australia I am a bit of a swing junkie. He is one player that I could not work out which part of his body starts the back swing. But I think you are both 100% right after watching the video's again and again. I feel now it is a chest move or the Torso that his is thinking about not the arms or shoulders.
Thanks Guy's for your input.

 

[JeffM]

When a golfer states that he initiates the takeaway movement with a "chest turn", does he actually move differently than if he were using an one piece takeaway (moving the shoulders and arms as a single unit)?

Jeff.

 

[self-mastery]

I can't be alone?

I think that what some say a RFT is, is not a RFT, but more of a RFP. A RFT would look like what Tomasello taught.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

Here's the deal:

A "Right forearm takeaway" is simply a takeaway that TRACES THE PLANE LINE ON THE WAY BACK.

THATS IT.

Some people have made it into "more" than that. Just trace the line and you are using a right forearm takeaway. Suck it too inside or keep it too outside and you don't.

End of story.

If you do a search Brian did a great free video on the subject.

 

[addamsmith]

So Elk takes it 100% on plane so he is a RFT then
Thanks
Addam

 

[Brian Manzella]

Yup.

A REAL RFT.

Not the RFT plus Delayed Pivot, Plus TSP only, PLUS set-up on TSP only, PLus Top of the head Tripod, etc.

Around here, I'd just call Elk's BACSWING—normal.

 

[addamsmith]

Thanks Brian

 

[Wilkie]

When a golfer states that he initiates the takeaway movement with a "chest turn", does he actually move differently than if he were using an one piece takeaway (moving the shoulders and arms as a single unit)?

Jeff.

Hello Jeff

I believe that Steve moves the shoulders and arms as a single unit.

The one piece takeaway, as defined by Sam Snead, involves moving the hips at the same time as the shoulders.

Cheers

Wilkie