10 Questions - 10 Answers —— The Clubface

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Old Tom

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Applying Vaseline to Face of Driver

pokerlife said:
If i coat the face of my driver with vaseline will it make my drives fly straight down the fairway ? Heard it from a old timer lol
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It's against the Rules to apply a foreign substance to a club face. However, many decades ago I watched Sam Snead in a PGA Tour event rub his persimmon Driver face on his cheeks before he teed off on every hole. He was using the natural oils of his skin to grease his club. Whether or not it was legal at the time is unknown to me.

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birly-shirly said:
mjh - have you seen this? http://people.stfx.ca/smackenz/Publications/MacKenzie%202011%20How%20does%20shaft%20flexibility%20affect%20the%20delivery%20of%20the%20clubhead%20to%20the%20ball.pdf
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Thanks birly-shirly for that link. I have now read it and if I understand it correctly, it seems that shaft flex would alter loft and not really affect direction unless there was a change in center of mass also... Am I on thethe right track? This forum is the best there is!!
*(Shaft flex would alter shaft deflection, which would alter loft primarily, not face orientation altering closure or direction)*???
 
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birly-shirly

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mjh116 said:
Thanks birly-shirly for that link. I have now read it and if I understand it correctly, it seems that shaft flex would alter loft and not really affect direction unless there was a change in center of mass also... Am I on thethe right track? This forum is the best there is!!
*(Shaft flex would alter shaft deflection, which would alter loft primarily, not face orientation altering closure or direction)*???
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My reading of p. 18 and 19 was that the more flexible the shaft, or the faster the swing speed, the greater would be the lead shaft deflection at impact which would increase both dynamic loft and face closure. [As would, as you say, a rearward displacement of the clubhead mass]

I'm not sure, but maybe what you saw was a constraint in the modelling that each set of torques in determining an optimum swing had to be capable of returning a square clubface at impact.
 
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If you don't hit the clubface on the sweet spot, what is the "best way" to miss? For example, if one misses on the inside, the gear effect causes the ball to hook (?), so, I guess, it is "logical" to aim right. I suspect logic has little to do with it (especially my logic). So, bottom line, what is the best way to miss the sweet spot and have the ball not go too far astray?
 
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Tball88

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Brian, this may have been asked, but how does lag(as defined by hands in relation to the clubhead) impact clubface position. Ie: we know that to hit a draw the clubface must be open to the target but closed to the path. However, if you have a great deal of lag will that not open the face more and create pushes? Given that ,if we have a tendency to lag the clubhead quite a bit, should you set up with a more closed or square face? Hope that makes sense

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Brian Manzella

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I will shoot a video answer soon. I have been sick since Tuesday....am felling better and traveling to the TOP 100 retreat today...will see if I. can get. Como to do it with me in MCO.
 
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Brian Manzella said:
I will shoot a video answer soon. I have been sick since Tuesday....am felling better and traveling to the TOP 100 retreat today...will see if I. can get. Como to do it with me in MCO.
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Don't run yourself ragged....travel takes a lot out of a person....take a little time to recharge batteries once an awhile
 
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cwdlaw223 said:
At what point in the dowsnwing is the clubface already programmed by the golfer and we can't do anything more to affect the face for impact?
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tongzilla said:
Is clubface square to the clubhead arc desirable? If it is, how long should you try to keep the face square to the arc during the swing?
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bertsmith said:
re the out toss: Does facing the palm outward in the direction of the out toss close the clubface, or just make the clubface become square to the intended arc of the downswing? I hit mostly pulls when facing the palm outward.
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ekennedy said:
Does the clubface position at the top (i.e. toe down, level with the horizon or somewhere in between) affect a players ability to square up the face at impact? Is it a useful observation?
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wulsy said:
Does gamma torque need to be suppressed or promoted in the impact phase?
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Wondering if Brian or Kevin can answer some of these questions when they aren't busy? It is a whole thread of good questions with no answers:confused:
I found the thread, because of a similar question that tongzilla had.
 
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Kevin Shields

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#1 question for someone smarter than me
#2 I think it is, and I personally try to keep it square to the arc a couple feet beyond impact by bending my left wrist
#3 depends on your grip, and the pulls are probably path related
#4 IMO a very useful observation, it tells me what a golfer can or cannot even try to do on the downswing
#5 suppressed IMO, the gamma comes before and shouldn't be needed through or after impact, again IMO
 
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