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golfbulldog

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Brian Manzella said:
Most people MISS READ THE BOOK right here!

The FLAT LEFT WRIST is for clubFACE control.

The LAG PRESSRE POINT is for clubHEAD CONTROL (ANTI-THROWAWAY).

You are correct in this regard:

The left wrist should be MADE flat, not MAKE ITSELF flat!
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Brian, what I was aiming at was how much muscular effort does "ping man" put into his left forearm to "make" that left wrist flat? None ... it just becomes flat because pingman just swings .

I agree that once thr left wrist is flat then it can be used for clubface control with varying hinge actions.

Shouldn't we all try to be more like pingman and not try to consciously force the left wrist to stay flat. Let it happen and once it is flat then learn to control it with hinge action?

Thanks Brian. PS . Before you mentioned pingman i had never heard of it but you have described it so many times i think i can see it in my imagination. Would Ping let you post a video of this machine in action?
 
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AJ will make me more money

I have met AJ Bonar. He's a really good guy and means well. I use his "DA BAT" training club in a lot of lessons. Not for the "home run" he mentions, but for forward shaft lean and aiming point.

Opening the clubface by cupping the left wrist will surely bring more customers my way.

Thanks AJ
 
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Brian Manzella

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I am sure AJ is a good guy...

...but...

For the last 20 years or so, while I taught non-stop, with no help, no real supply, while trying to become the best that ever lived, staying up 'til 4 in the morning watching video, teaching some of the very best players, buying more video and computer equipment than a small market TV station, travel all over the country attending summits and seminars, and learning from the best....

AJ was a College Golf Coach and the Director of a "Junior College for future Assistant Pros."

Listen folks, I played Drums for HOURS a day, EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE from age 4 to age 22. PRACTICE TIME ESTIMATE: 9198 hours of practice

I was pretty damn good at it.

In the next 23 years, I have played less than 91 hours!

I just ain't as good as I once was, and I think if I would have spent more time I would be better at it.

Don't ya think??

Since age 20, I have probably spent 50,000 HOURS WORKING ON MY GOLF TEACHING AND MY GOLF GAME (which trust me, was ALL research).

No way some one who was a college coach/teacher, or money manager, or drummer is going to out teach me.

No way.
 
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Brian Manzella said:
...but...

For the last 20 years or so, while I taught non-stop, with no help, no real supply, while trying to become the best that ever lived, staying up 'til 4 in the morning watching video, teaching some of the very best players, buying more video and computer equipment than a small market TV station, travel all over the country attending summits and seminars, and learning from the best....

AJ was a College Golf Coach and the Director of a "Junior College for future Assistant Pros."

Listen folks, I played Drums for HOURS a day, EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE from age 4 to age 22. PRACTICE TIME ESTIMATE: 9198 hours of practice

I was pretty damn good at it.

In the next 23 years, I have played less than 91 hours!

I just ain't as good as I once was, and I think if I would have spent more time I would be better at it.

Don't ya think??

Since age 20, I have probably spent 50,000 HOURS WORKING ON MY GOLF TEACHING AND MY GOLF GAME (which trust me, was ALL research).

No way some one who was a college coach/teacher, or money manager, or drummer is going to out teach me.

No way.
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So you don't believe you have anything to learn from any other teacher, instructor, or coach?
 
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Brian,
Obviously, your time spent practicing, studying and learning has not gone to waste. One proof of this is in the newest version of Never Slice Again 2.0! You also mentioned a method of teaching in your terrific Beta Building Blocks DVD that caught my ear/eye. While showing the basic chip shot, you said something like, "If I had my way, every golfer would do the chip shot for a month before moving on..." (pardon the quotes around my paraphrasing). Realizing that this is an impossible task for "live" teaching, you didn't mention it again. But what about incorporating this longer learning period into your DVD's or (hopefully) a book? Many of us floundering students would die for some structure. Picture the Buidling Blocks DVD divided into "x" number of sections along with strong warnings about not advancing to the next session until the previous is mastered. I mentioned a book, because it is easier for some of us to reference a book than a video when we want to check on specific instructional areas. In addition, golf books and DVD's marketed to a larger audience than those of us who stumble upon your website might prove a way to put some MOOLA in your pocket.
 
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I personally would not advocate chipping only as a building block for the swing. I have found pupils can too easily "manage" the club in the slower and shorter movements of chipping, whereas in a full swing the PRIME necessity is the free throwing motion given to the clubhead. It is my experience that someone trained in managing his club will forever believe that is how he must "swing" it. REAL serious problem, and one of the hardest physical habits/beliefs/mandates to change!

In my program the FIRST thing learned is the FULL free swinging motion - the release from centrifugal force: when we get to chipping, some of that free release is zeroed out!
 
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I have seen some of your videos, Brian, -- not all.

The idea of chipping only to form the image of swinging is problematic, as I see it. I use such a procedure in due time, when "growing" someone's skill, but only after establishing the dynamics of a truly free swinging motion without zeroing anything out or managing anything except the aim of the motion.
 
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Perfect Impact said:
I have seen some of your videos, Brian, -- not all.

The idea of chipping only to form the image of swinging is problematic, as I see it. I use such a procedure in due time, when "growing" someone's skill, but only after establishing the dynamics of a truly free swinging motion without zeroing anything out or managing anything except the aim of the motion.
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NO! Where did you get the idea that he does that? Brian has been saying the opposite for years.
 
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IF a pupil is led to the full swing from a chipping model, that would be the problematic part. The earlier post seemed to say that that is what he did.
Glad to hear his agreement with this! That's good.
 
golfbulldog

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Whats a FATS?

Brian Manzella said:
If you want to be a "Pure" swinger.

But, in my opinion, most people need to learn to be a SWINGER + FATS first.
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Not sure Brian?

F= flat?

T = throwaway

S = swinger

Is this an expression you have coined?

I have heard people ( on the other place etc) use expression "manipulated hands swinger" or something like that...

Not really sure what that is either!

Would you say that your recent swing change was to become more of a "pure swinger"? now that you let the left wrist bend after impact rather than keep it flat throughout swing?
 
golfbulldog

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birdie_man said:
Smarter than the average bear...!

;)
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Thanks Birdieman! You are starting to think in Manzell-ish language now! Does FATS really mean 4 barrels swinginging?

ie. swinging id all the longitudinal force ( along the shaft )and then just prior to impact you add a bit of accumulator 1 active power ?

How is it "across the shaft?"

Thanks Brian, if you could add this topic to your already busy list of "video answers" we would be very happy. :D
 
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