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If the thumb is just a bit too long it can cause a separation between the first knuckle joint of the index finger and the space between the second and third knuckle joint of the thumb. When this gap is closed you can apply any pressure you like without rubbing. This is part of the "no air" grip.

As I see it there is a difference of wrist alignment regarding the shaft and clubface. If you are a hitter and want the thumb more towards the aft side of the club then you will have to turn your wrist a bit to accomodate the knuckle connection. The other side of the coin is if you are a swinger you would want the wrist more neutral and aligned with the top of the shaft and paralell to the leading edge of the clubface.

Either way, the closer the first knuckle joint of the left hand index finger can fit in between the second and third knuckle joints of the left thumb, you should be able to eliminate your blister.

As an after thought, I'm not sure where you connect PP #1 to your left thumb. I've read earlier a description of it but not quite sure it is clear in those terms.

Anyway, hope this makes sense.
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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Stop applying the pressure, it's hindering the natural ability of your "swing."

Extensor action is one of those things that most people don't need to "actively" apply. Very few do imo.

Or if you have "got to have it" why don't you move your left thumb in a more supportive spot on the club, ie just right of center. If you have it too "down the shaft" then when you apply the pressure you will get your blister. Put it a bit more aft and let there be some separation between the left index finger and thumb.
 
Very interesting ideas. I appreciate them all and I will work on several of them.

Just so you know the grip size I use is in fact a 5 which is perfect for my hands. You can tell because there is a small gap between my pinky finger and the palm of my left hand... so I don't believe grip size is an issue. Although I may give this some consideration and go to a larger grip.

I'm not sure how I'm supposed to eliminate the pressure of extensor action. Although obviously it would prevent the blister, it would mean a loss of accelleration through impact. I'm a small guy and I need every bit of what I can get. I'll see if I might be able to find a reduction though that still permits steady accelleration and maintains the power package.

There was a suggestion that I rotate my left hand a bit stronger and my right hand weaker on the club. Aparently I have been putting my left hand on a bit too weak and my right a bit too strong. I tend to disagree. When I did do this, it did not solve the problem either. I was still applying presure to my thumb whether by right palm or thumb pad and it was still pinching. So making a stronger grip with my left did not work.

Now Jim, although a stronger grip of my left did not fix it, just moving my thumb over might. I will have to give that a try. As it is I tend to have a slight bend in my left wrist at the top of my backswing. If my thumb is too far on top of the club then this would make sense why I need to cup it. Putting the thumb slightly more to the right may give me the support I need without actually making my grip stronger. A fine point not many people would think about.
 

Jim Kobylinski

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Very interesting ideas. I appreciate them all and I will work on several of them.

I'm not sure how I'm supposed to eliminate the pressure of extensor action. Although obviously it would prevent the blister, it would mean a loss of accelleration through impact. I'm a small guy and I need every bit of what I can get. I'll see if I might be able to find a reduction though that still permits steady accelleration and maintains the power package.

Now Jim, although a stronger grip of my left did not fix it, just moving my thumb over might. I will have to give that a try. As it is I tend to have a slight bend in my left wrist at the top of my backswing. If my thumb is too far on top of the club then this would make sense why I need to cup it. Putting the thumb slightly more to the right may give me the support I need without actually making my grip stronger. A fine point not many people would think about.

I'm not saying to eliminate it, i'm saying to just not consciously apply it. I don't use any real use of my right arm and have no problem generating between 112-118mph of clubhead speed. You're a swinger so let it swing.

Keep your neutral grip and just move the thumb over a bit to the right of centerline so that the thumb fits more in the right-hand cup. This will keep your hands together much better.
 
Ringer, if you are happy with how you are hitting it why would you want to change your swing for a blister instead of putting a glove on it? Of course taking away the right arm thrust or changing the grip may fix it, but possibly your game may suffer
 
I'm not saying to eliminate it, i'm saying to just not consciously apply it. I don't use any real use of my right arm and have no problem generating between 112-118mph of clubhead speed. You're a swinger so let it swing.

Keep your neutral grip and just move the thumb over a bit to the right of centerline so that the thumb fits more in the right-hand cup. This will keep your hands together much better.
Hmmm.. well I wasn't making any concious effort to apply extensor action to begin with. It sounds like you're advocating going left arm dominant and using accumulator 4 as my primary power source.

Let me know if you aren't really into TGM terminology cause I'll stop using it. I just wanted to speak your language out of respect.

Now as I said, I tend to have my left hand cupped a bit at the top of my backswing to support the club during the transition..... so your idea of moving my thumb to the right could solve both problems. I very hopefull to see some results this weekend when I can get out and practice again.
 
Ringer, if you are happy with how you are hitting it why would you want to change your swing for a blister instead of putting a glove on it? Of course taking away the right arm thrust or changing the grip may fix it, but possibly your game may suffer

I'm very happy with how I'm hitting it. A glove doesn't change anything though and it's impossible to put any tape over it... I just sweat it off. Trust me I've tried all sorts of things and a blister is always an indication that something isn't right. In this case it was an unusual something... but it is something none the less and we should always aspire to improve.

BTW, I wouldn't make any change that truely makes my game suffer. I think the idea that you have to get worse before you can get better is a load of crap. I also have a great aptitude for change. I try to remain open to all things as "different" rather than wrong. Some things I have studied over and over again until I have determined that the difference is bad, but whenever trying something new I just think it's different and I should give it a reasonable assesment. Obviously if you told me it would be better to hit standing on my head, then reason would dictate I don't need to even try that method because of it's absurdity. With enough reason certain things can be ruled out without the need of trying. But if something is reasonable to try, I'll do it. If I don't see improvement in some respect, then I'll disreguard it.

Junk in, junk out.
 

Jim Kobylinski

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Hmmm.. well I wasn't making any concious effort to apply extensor action to begin with. It sounds like you're advocating going left arm dominant and using accumulator 4 as my primary power source.

Let me know if you aren't really into TGM terminology cause I'll stop using it. I just wanted to speak your language out of respect.

Now as I said, I tend to have my left hand cupped a bit at the top of my backswing to support the club during the transition..... so your idea of moving my thumb to the right could solve both problems. I very hopefull to see some results this weekend when I can get out and practice again.

Well unless you are a 4 barrell swinger you shouldn't be using the right (consciously) at all imo. You don't have to be left arm dominant, i don't do anything with my arms. It's all in the pivot, the arms just swing while the hands just hold on. You're a swinger and shouldn't fight it. You will still have plenty of power through the other accumulators.

I think if you try to make adjustments to your pivot (as i noted in your other thread) your swing would become more consistent and effortless at the same time.
 
Well unless you are a 4 barrell swinger you shouldn't be using the right (consciously) at all imo. You don't have to be left arm dominant, i don't do anything with my arms. It's all in the pivot, the arms just swing while the hands just hold on. You're a swinger and shouldn't fight it. You will still have plenty of power through the other accumulators.

I think if you try to make adjustments to your pivot (as i noted in your other thread) your swing would become more consistent and effortless at the same time.

What are the changes to my pivot you are recommending?
 
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