Aaron Baddeley Swing Analysis by Brian Manzella, PGA, G.S.E.D.

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Brian Manzella

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Here is an unmarked and marked swing sequence of Andy Plummer and Michael Bennett student, Aaron Baddeley.

I don't care what they SAY they are trying to get him to do, this is a GREAT SWINg, and should be a MODEL for many to use.

I mean the actual SWING, the real "Stroke Pattern" that is here in living color. We can debate the WHAT THEY TELL HIM, and what they tell us, they are doing, but the proof is in the PICTURES.

As orthodox as Mashed Potatoes.

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Brian Manzella

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LARGE PRINT with audio

Audio Commentary by Brian Manzella:
[media]http://homepage.mac.com/brianmanzella/.Music/badds.mp3[/media]

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BM, quick question?

Why is the converging lines from his feet (tri-pod) at the top, right side of his head? Is this a TGM thing?

Love his swing, love the pics and this IS very orthodox...:)
 
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puttmad

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Looks like a good "normal" golf swing, albeit a bit "dead-legged" through impact...
What am I missing here. I thought the weight was supposed to stay on the left side?...
The first 4 pics look like equal weight on both feet and the weight moving left at transition....
 
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Brian Manzella

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Manfrotto makes a good one.

cmartingolf said:
Why is the converging lines from his feet (tri-pod) at the top, right side of his head? Is this a TGM thing?
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The top of the TRIPOD should be at the BASE OF THE NECK, or the POINT BETWEEN THE SHOULDERS, in my opinion.

In some other's opinions, it should be through the head, or something like that.

I think the folks who support this—in my opinion—very misguided idea, where sorta hoping that this guy would be one of those who sort of validate the idea.

Nah....his head is behind that Tripod.

I always include it in my picture analysis' for fun. ;)
 
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Brian Manzella

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Oh, boy...

armourall said:
Was this an uphill lie?
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Before I get all the conspiracy theorists thing I did something funny, I pulled these pics from video of him on Golf Digest's site exactly as is, with lots of very carefully placed lines and refernce points.

I think he stands sorta open.

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armourall

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Brian Manzella said:
Before I get all the conspiracy theorists thing I did something funny, I pulled these pics from video of him on Golf Digest's site exactly as is, with lots of very carefully placed lines and refernce points.

I think he stands sorta open.

:rolleyes:
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Not implying anything, just thought it looked kind of funny (either uphill or open). If it WAS uphill, and you adjusted it accordingly, would your analysis/opinion be any different? (Or, do you think the sequence from the current Golf Digest--the small pictures, not the exaggerated ones--looks as good as he does here?)
 
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Amazing how his pivot resembles the Perfect Pivot article by Brian. The danger with Plummer-Bennett swing is not pivoting enough on backswing. Clearly, Baddely has a terrific pivot. I tried stack and tilt this weekend, without a good pivot, lots of shanks. Thanks Brian for the analysis.
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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From what i can gather from the articles and the posts, the big lean left look is more of a feel that isn't to be done to completetion anyway.

I've said it before and i'll say it again. If you take someone who leans too far right or sways off the ball who will then swing too inside/out most likely and give them the idea of "staying centered" or actually "leaning left" they will simply COME BACK to where they should be and hit the ball much better.

Now if it means i have to get them to exaggerate a reverse pivot to do it or just tell them to keep their head steady, it doesn't matter. This type of pivot feeling will work for certain players.

Hell, I had to do something similar to this because i was swaying off the ball too much (ankle injury was promoting this). Now i just tell myself that if i keep my head centered i'll be fine. Now does my head stay steady or does my upper body lean left? No, but it's just a feeling to get the REAL MOVE i want.

Hope that helps.
 
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flapro

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JK, you are right. no one stays truly centered but that mindset is a good one to keep one from swaying. Especially with longer shafted clubs, one has to move more but certainly not like Vijay.
 
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priceunderpar

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Brian,

Great breakdown of the swing! It is certainly much more "conventional" than what was indicated in the GD article. Are you certain the pics were taken after the Plummer and Bennet guys changed him?

To clarify: I'm not an instructor, or S & T proponent. (I've been told there are such people hiding in the Bushes, and to be fingered as such could get me shunned.)
 
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dodger said:
Amazing how his pivot resembles the Perfect Pivot article by Brian. The danger with Plummer-Bennett swing is not pivoting enough on backswing. Clearly, Baddely has a terrific pivot. I tried stack and tilt this weekend, without a good pivot, lots of shanks. Thanks Brian for the analysis.
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The more you work on this business of staying a bit more on the left the result may be, as dodger said, not pivoting enough. Shoulder turn can get less and less as you try to make the 'stay left' key work. I like what flapro says about this stuff. A little bit of this medicine can go a long way.

I lost about 30 yards on my drives using swing keys similar to P&B, but it does seem to work for some golfers.
 
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Look at the players these guys are teaching, all are in great physical shape. Jason Gore went to them and left, my thought is that he probably lacked the flexibility to stay on the left side and pivot in the manner they teach. My point is that swaying is definitely harmful, but so is staying on the left foot and lifting your arms, thinking you made a backswing. I also have had too much movement in the backswing and have worked on a steady head, but without pivot, ouch.
 
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