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matt,
In earlier posts you were adamant about the "exactness" of the impact fix and the exactness of hand height at impact, and now you think just hovering the clubhead over the ball is exact enough? The question is how exact do you want to be? Doing this when playing would require a compromise.
And, not just "over the ball", but also inside, and on plane for a down and out path to the low point.
In earlier posts you were adamant about the "exactness" of the impact fix and the exactness of hand height at impact, and now you think just hovering the clubhead over the ball is exact enough? The question is how exact do you want to be? Doing this when playing would require a compromise.
And, not just "over the ball", but also inside, and on plane for a down and out path to the low point.
rwh,
You are supposed to stand exactly where you would for the shot. For varying terrain, this would require it. On flat ground, how could you be sure that you transposed all the alignments after moving up to the ball?
Seems to me that would be no better than using normal address and using practice experience to know how far toward the toe to play the ball.
Again though, my real problem with impact fix is that when a player does an impact fix, does he really know where everything is at impact, or is he just doing a crude approximation to where he THINKS he is? I think you need some serious comparative video here.
You are supposed to stand exactly where you would for the shot. For varying terrain, this would require it. On flat ground, how could you be sure that you transposed all the alignments after moving up to the ball?
Seems to me that would be no better than using normal address and using practice experience to know how far toward the toe to play the ball.
Again though, my real problem with impact fix is that when a player does an impact fix, does he really know where everything is at impact, or is he just doing a crude approximation to where he THINKS he is? I think you need some serious comparative video here.
quote:Originally posted by matt
I goofed. I mixed up the WAGGLE and IMPACT FIX. I apologize.
The fix is done with the clubhead behind the ball in impact alignment. That's the way Chuck does it, not over the top of the ball. He does the WAGGLE over the top of the ball.
Matt,
In a world filled with inflated egos that are never wrong, your prompt and forthright "I goofed" is refreshing. I'm impressed!
First: not an apostate; but also not a true believer.
It seems to me pros don't do impact fix because it is simply not important. Having taken lessons from a G.S.E.D. and tried it, I find very little relationship between the pose--however picturesque--and the actual kinetic moment of impact. It was certainly useful the first time letting me know where I needed to get to, and how ideal impact position differed from the one I was producing. But it's not possible to engage all the muscle groups that produce impact simply by posing it. That is, you need to do a whole bunch of other things right to get there no matter how apparently accurate the physical representation of the pose has been. So, for me, it's pointless.
It seems to me pros don't do impact fix because it is simply not important. Having taken lessons from a G.S.E.D. and tried it, I find very little relationship between the pose--however picturesque--and the actual kinetic moment of impact. It was certainly useful the first time letting me know where I needed to get to, and how ideal impact position differed from the one I was producing. But it's not possible to engage all the muscle groups that produce impact simply by posing it. That is, you need to do a whole bunch of other things right to get there no matter how apparently accurate the physical representation of the pose has been. So, for me, it's pointless.
Brian Manzella
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I can pose it next to exact...
What about the shoulders at IMPACT FIX, and IMPACT?
Some believe that at IMPACT, the SHOULDERS should be OPEN, especially for SWINGERS, with the longer clubs. With HITTERS, because the right shoulder is like a "LAUNCHING PAD," the shoulders will be more SQUARE at IMPACT.
In one study I saw, many tour players do in fact set up with the SHOULDERS OPEN a few degrees. I believe that Ben Hogan set up with the SHOULDERS OPEN.
I wonder if Stadler, and other Hitters, set up with the shoulders SQUARE, and are SQUARE, with the SHOULDERS at IMPACT?
Some believe that at IMPACT, the SHOULDERS should be OPEN, especially for SWINGERS, with the longer clubs. With HITTERS, because the right shoulder is like a "LAUNCHING PAD," the shoulders will be more SQUARE at IMPACT.
In one study I saw, many tour players do in fact set up with the SHOULDERS OPEN a few degrees. I believe that Ben Hogan set up with the SHOULDERS OPEN.
I wonder if Stadler, and other Hitters, set up with the shoulders SQUARE, and are SQUARE, with the SHOULDERS at IMPACT?
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