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Brian Manzella

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Meeks...

Leadbetter says in his ads and materials that he is the World's #1 Coach.

My question to you is this:

Why not visit Leadbetter's forum, and get expert analysis from him?

..oops, sorry....he doesn't have one.

Listen, I really, honestly think I am better than this guy...and the other media proclaimed 'troubleshooters' and the like.

If I didn't, I'd quit.

I got in this profession to be #1 (in reality and in people like the media's mind).

Tacky and classless? Really?
 
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hue

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quote:Originally posted by Meeks


Also, I've never heard Leadbetter say he's the #1 teacher in the world; he doesn't have to, there are plenty of other people saying it for him. I'm not saying I think he's the best teacher in the world and you can problably outteach him any day, but he does have multiple major winners for students. Proof's in the pudding, right?

I'm sure this post will not make Hall of Fame status:)
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Meeks: I had numerous lessons fron Leadbetter's former partner Denis Pugh just after they split. I have learned more real golf info from Brian's website than all the expensive video filmed lessons I had with that humpty back toad. Leadbetter has IMG behind him and they control the affairs of most of the top players . Maybe just maybe this has had an influence on him being associated with "finishing" not teaching the top players. If the proof is in the pudding I put it to you name one tour player that the mighty Leadbetter trained ON to the tour. He has flat ruined many former tour players and taught many of them off the tour. I don't see how this achievement can be used as the benchmark of being the no one coach. I asked Gary Player about his opinion of Leadbetter at mini half round earner he was doing at Hainault Golf Club . He said that he was a fraud and could not believe half the crap he was teaching Faldo .This is the bit you don't get advertised by IMG but I got from several former and tour players that I met when caddying for a friend who wanted to be a tour player. Leadbetter is the No 1 PROMOTED golf coach in the world not the No 1 coach. Don't be a Lemming see things as they really are.
 
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Mathew

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Leadbetter breath smells funky from all that Krud he keeps spewing....

Ps... It takes a special skill to be in the circles of great players day in and day out and think that you still got to swing in to in ....lol
 
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Meeks , don't mistake arrogance for confidence,I always find it interesting to listen to the top athletes and the confidence level they have, did you listen to PHIL last week!. Brian is very passionate about his teaching and would do what ever it takes to help you out even if you put him down. I call him the one-lined man so you getting that post about his life was nice, I didn't know that much about him so it was interesting, a young friend plays for SOUTH EASTERN LOUISIANA that is from here .
Meeks , if you think about it to have the opportunity to discuss the golf swing with a teacher of BRIAN'S quality is awful nice.For me I'm not a total TGM person mostley due to the fact the nearest teacher is 1000KM'S away so I love taking tips from here. Two years ago BRIAN gave me a simple grip fix that cured the overswing I was fighting and made the left wrist much flatter at the top, for a scratch player to change his grip was not the easy. Second thing I have been working on was freeing up the right hip on the backswing , I am not that flexible and all along tring not to turn the hips , this was making me lift and not turn into the backswing and have a very upright backswing. You may find BRIAN'S short video's will help you with the basic understanding of the terminology of tgm. I think most people that don't understand tgm simply don't understand the terminology (like me) . Hope this forum helps , TIM
 
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Meeks

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Hue, you can stop calling me names(lemming), at least I didn't resort to that. Speaking of lemmings, the rest of you can go back to kissing Brian's ass like always. Ha,ha. Seriously, for the most part I enjoy this website and I think it speaks well of Brian to take so much of his time to help everyone on here. I'm not trying to sabotage the website or anything, I just get tired of all the gloating that occurs from time to time. But I'm sure someone will tell me to leave if I don't like it, and they would be right. Anyway, as far as I am concerned, we can all move on and talk about golf.
 
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jazzyshan

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I certainly didn't mean for this thread to become a flame-throwing war when I wrote it. I was just looking for some insight into _how_ Brian, or any good teacher, goes about helping a student eliminate deeply ingrained bad habits when simple explanations alone won't do the trick. Actually, I'm still waiting for that insight....
 
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C'mon yall...let's not get all pissy...

Buddy is just expressing his opinion...he might be pretty blunt about it but I'm sure Brian can handle it.

That's healthy you know...expressing your thoughts. Just think, maybe if Meeks didn't let it out he'd get an urge to start beating people instead...no??? ;)

I think I heard that on Dr. Phil...
 
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dcg1952

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As someone else mentioned, I think Brian is just VERY passionate about his teaching. Some mistake that for arrogance. As someone once said, "It ain't braggin' if you can do it." Keep doing what you're doing Brian. Dr Dave
 
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I don't know much about how Mr L B teach, he was in China a few weeks ago, and my coach asked me whether I want to sit in for his seminar. My answer to my coach was, although I am not as good as Mr L B, but I just do not want to waste my time there. Commerical student will get commerical coach, commerical coach will get commerical student. Is all about picking the right student, to be famous
I much prefer to spend time here, rather then going in for Mr L B talk....
I like people talk about balance, motion, and force.. But definately not Shape and check points
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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Brian's passion, knowledge, and opinions are hard to type on the internet without sounding extremely cocky and arrogant.

However in person and in the videos you can purchase or even the free audio answers he gives you can tell that he doesn't "sound" or explain things to you like you are not smart or he is the greatest on earth.

He simply says, "hey i'm sorry, but thats wrong and this is why. So this is how we're gonna fix that."
 
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EdZ

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I was just reading an article in GD (Jenkins I think, I don't remember) in which he was mocking the tour for lack of 'personality'.

No doubt golf instructors, many anyway, lack personality on the whole.

Nobody familiar with Brian would ever say that of him!

Personally, I think results speak for themselves.

BTW - Brian, we should jam sometime - still drumming? ;) Best drummer I ever saw live was playing with McCoy Tyner about 8 years ago, I don't recall his name but man he could play! Awesome to hear (and see) someone able to play so many layers of rhythm at the same time. I'm a guitar guy mostly amongst many others (guitar, bass, piano, sax, clarinet, bass clarinet and percussion of all types) never a set player though.
 
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EdZ,
I agree. I don't have a problem with the "lack of personality" on Tour because that is there job and to be as good as those guys are takes a bit of an introvert in most cases, but the lack of personality of golf instructors is horrible. How can you be a good teacher without getting exited about your student's progress? How can you be a good teacher without showing some enthusiasm when you try to get your point across? The problem is the "Leadbetter Academy" and similar "schools" that churn out pros to teach that instructor's method. Sure, it's great to learn and teach under someone, but not when they are molding you. You have to have some capability to think and develope your teaching on your own and present it in a way that is unique. Golf instructors don't do this anymore.
 
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EdZ

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I'd say that goes much deeper than just golf instruction though - being a 'parrot' is easy, 'thinking' is something not enought people are doing these days (look no farther than your television/main media for all the evidence you need).

As far as teaching, it is an art indeed. Several arts actually. Reading people, reading swings/ball flight and knowing how to communicate are all separate areas that few combine well.
 
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