Another possible urban legend debunked?

[Burner]

There is no way to sustain compression with meaningful results during the impact interval (5/10,000 of a sec.) Don't calculations show a small fraction of 1% difference in clubhead speed at separation between a stressed shaft and a piece of string holding the clubhead?

Exactly Perfect Impact. Whether or not anyone is going to take Brian's analogy and try and disprove it, it's just an ANALOGY that is comparing what Perfect Impact is saying above.

Guys,

I know, I do indeed know - but I still struggle to see why it is no longer acceptable to

Sustain the line of compression, or at least try to, no matter what evidence is presented saying it cannot be done.

Yet trying to ensure the movement of the club head into and through the line on which the ball sits without perceptible impedance is what we all still strive to do; despite science/math demonstrating that impedance there certainly is and endeavouring to resist it is futile.

Curious, eh?

 

[Burner]

Burner,

Intriguing seeing you resist so valiantly your cherished ideas about impact being discarded by science.

In golf feel and real are not always a happy couple but in science feel and real are since long separated.

Hello old chap, glad to see you are still around.

My "cherished ideas about impact" were long since disturbed by your learned offerings. Indeed, although I am reluctant to acknowledge it, I can appreciate that the impact interval is too brief for there to be any chance that force can be added. However, I see no reason why trying to sustain, or resist the loss of, such force is no longer de rigueur.

Iron Byron with a shaft of string. Now there's a thought.

 

[Perfect Impact]

There are many trick shot artists who use flexible rubber shafts in their shows. And if anyone can't swing a Whippy without screwing up, you'd want to check the timing of his transition, the correct way to accelerate the club, and the smoothness of the force thus applied. And of course, since the clubhead moves via centriFUGal force, as we call it, YOUR job is to produce centriPETal opposite force. So sustaining the force through impact is not done by pushing but by pulling inward. Think about it (to a bent left elbow).

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

Sustain the line of compression, or at least try to,no matter what evidence is presented saying it cannot be done.

Sure, try all you want. As long as it doesn't make you play any worse. If it's a feel you want to use that makes you play better, all the power to you.

Just be willing to try not too as well and see how good you hit it then and compare.

 

[mandrin]

From one old chap to another

Hello old chap, glad to see you are still around.

My "cherished ideas about impact" were long since disturbed by your learned offerings. Indeed, although I am reluctant to acknowledge it, I can appreciate that the impact interval is too brief for there to be any chance that force can be added. However, I see no reason why trying to sustain, or resist the loss of, such force is no longer de rigueur.

Iron Byron with a shaft of string. Now there's a thought.

Burner,

I am not going to try to convince you. Your opinion is so deep rooted that it better remains where it is. Removing even minor support from an old building one never knows what might happen.

One major difference between an average amateur and a good player is the position of the hands at impact. If “sustaining the line of compression” or “not quitting” leads to the desired advanced position of the hands at impact, all is fine.

 

[Brian Manzella]

But....

If trying to "sustain" anything—like a flat left wrist past the ball—slows you down, or disturbs your clubface position...

DON'T DO IT!

 

[Burner]

Burner,

I am not going to try to convince you. Your opinion is so deep rooted that it better remains where it is. Removing even minor support from an old building one never knows what might happen.

Au contraire, mon ami. I am convinced, just not too sure why.

One major difference between an average amateur and a good player is the position of the hands at impact. If “sustaining the line of compression” or “not quitting” leads to the desired advanced position of the hands at impact, all is fine.

Brother Lee, Brother Lee, brotherly love! We are agreed on that score.

All together now,

"This ole Burner house is a-gettin' shaky
This ole house is a-gettin' old
This ole house lets in rain
This ole house lets in the cold.

Oh his knees are a-gettin' chilly
But he feels no fear of pain
'Cause he hears old Mandrin's wisdom
through the broken windowpane".

 

[Burner]

If trying to "sustain" anything—like a flat left wrist past the ball—slows you down, or disturbs your clubface position...

DON'T DO IT!

If only I had cottoned on to that point earlier than I did, my journey to golfing adequacy would not have taken nearly so long.