Backswing Magic (Forearm), Forward Swing Magic????

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If the backswing is significantly improved by the magic of the right forearm pick-up, what is the equally important forward swing movement that significantly improves forward swing motion....????
 

holenone

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quote:Originally posted by 300Drive

If the backswing is significantly improved by the magic of the right forearm pick-up, what is the equally important forward swing movement that significantly improves forward swing motion....????

The Magic of the Right Forearm (7-3) does not end with the Right Forearm Takeaway. Unlike the disruptive Shoulder Turn Takeaway -- which keeps the Clubhead too 'low' and thus necessitates a Single Shift (10-7-B) to achieve a Turned Shoulder Plane -- the Right Forearm Pick Up takes the Club instantly and simultaneously Up, In and Back with Zero Shift (10-7-A) on a Turned Shoulder Plane (10-6-B). This Three Dimensional Start Up (2-F) parallels the Three Dimensional Impact -- Downward (Attack Angle), Outward (Plane Angle) and Forward (Approach Angle) [2-C-0] -- that is so necessary for Maximum Compression.

This geometrically correct Start Up is the best way to assure that you arrive at the Top with minimal adjustment required with regards to the Plane Line, Lag Loading and Right Forearm Position (12-3 / Section 6 / #19-#23). Then, you have only to return the Right Forearm precisely to its own Angle of Approach (7-3) as established at Impact Fix (8-8).

This assures the Downward element so often missing from the Impacts of even the best players. It thereby eliminates the Clubface 'Wobble' (and Lost Compression) that occurs during Impacts where the Clubhead comes in too low and Laying Back.

"As it goes back, so it tends to come down."

The Magic of the Right Forearm -- in both directions -- is the open door to your Best Golf.
 
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quote:Originally posted by 300Drive

If the backswing is significantly improved by the magic of the right forearm pick-up, what is the equally important forward swing movement that significantly improves forward swing motion....????

...... Then, you have only to return the Right Forearm precisely to its own Angle of Approach (7-3) as established at Impact Fix (8-8).

..............

The Magic of the Right Forearm -- in both directions -- is the open door to your Best Golf.

Question...on the backswing your right forearm delivers the club on plane to the top of swing position....What or how do you deliver the right forearm on the forward swing when using a swinger's action (not a hitter's action)? Does the pulling by the left side deliver the right forearm?, the pivot (I hope not, I dont get how the pivot delivers the arms and club), or the right forearm itself? If its the right forearm, it would not seem like a swinger's action.

Thanks
 
300,
The right forarm will still be tracing the plane line whether you hit or swing. The right shoulder is used in both as well. In hitting, the right shoulder drives downplane, but acts as a "launching pad" and gives the right arm something to hit from. In swinging, the right shoulder "cranks the gyroscope" and throws the right arm. Hitting = the right arm drives Swinging = the right arm is driven
 
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300,
The right forarm will still be tracing the plane line whether you hit or swing. The right shoulder is used in both as well. .......in swinging, the right shoulder "cranks the gyroscope" and throws the right arm. Hitting = the right arm drives Swinging = the right arm is driven

I was responding to holeinone's comment about the right forearm delivering the club on the backswing and forward swing. My question is, if the right forearm is the delivers the power package on the BS, how could a swinger use the right forearm to deliver the package on the forward swing...that would be hitting, correct????

I though swingers, pulled the power package through with the left side, particularly from the top of the backswing, that is pull the package down, forward, and out.
 

holenone

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quote:Originally posted by 300Drive

quote:Originally posted by holenone

quote:Originally posted by 300Drive

If the backswing is significantly improved by the magic of the right forearm pick-up, what is the equally important forward swing movement that significantly improves forward swing motion....????

...... Then, you have only to return the Right Forearm precisely to its own Angle of Approach (7-3) as established at Impact Fix (8-8).

..............

The Magic of the Right Forearm -- in both directions -- is the open door to your Best Golf.

Question...on the backswing your right forearm delivers the club on plane to the top of swing position....What or how do you deliver the right forearm on the forward swing when using a swinger's action (not a hitter's action)? Does the pulling by the left side deliver the right forearm?, the pivot (I hope not, I dont get how the pivot delivers the arms and club), or the right forearm itself? If its the right forearm, it would not seem like a swinger's action.

Thanks

For a given Delivery Line, the Geometry of the Right Forearm Motion is identical for both Hitters and Swingers. Only the Physics differs (Preface and 2-M-1). The Hitter's Active Right Forearm is Driven into its Impact Fix alignment by Muscular Thrust per 6-B-1-A (Right Triceps Drive). The Swinger's Passive Right Forearm is Thrown into its Impact alignment by Centrifugal Force per 6-B-4-A (Right Shoulder Turn Thrust).
 
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quote:Originally posted by 300Drive

quote:Originally posted by holenone

quote:Originally posted by 300Drive

If the backswing is significantly improved by the magic of the right forearm pick-up, what is the equally important forward swing movement that significantly improves forward swing motion....????

...... Then, you have only to return the Right Forearm precisely to its own Angle of Approach (7-3) as established at Impact Fix (8-8).

..............

The Magic of the Right Forearm -- in both directions -- is the open door to your Best Golf.

Question...on the backswing your right forearm delivers the club on plane to the top of swing position....What or how do you deliver the right forearm on the forward swing when using a swinger's action (not a hitter's action)? Does the pulling by the left side deliver the right forearm?, the pivot (I hope not, I dont get how the pivot delivers the arms and club), or the right forearm itself? If its the right forearm, it would not seem like a swinger's action.

Thanks

For a given Delivery Line, the Geometry of the Right Forearm Motion is identical for both Hitters and Swingers. Only the Physics differs (Preface and 2-M-1). The Hitter's Active Right Forearm is Driven into its Impact Fix alignment by Muscular Thrust per 6-B-1-A (Right Triceps Drive). The Swinger's Passive Right Forearm is Thrown into its Impact alignment by Centrifugal Force per 6-B-4-A (Right Shoulder Turn Thrust).

I think I understand...so, swingers will thrust the right shoulder down to (through) the inside back of the ball, which keeps the club on-plane and delivers the power package through impact "correctly" (i.e., on plane)?

Is there also and simultaneously, an accompanying pull of the left side at all?
 
As I understand Swinging... SOMETHING should PULL. It could be the left SIDE, but it doesn't have to be. The Swinger's Rope Handle should be Pulled, not Pushed.
 

holenone

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quote:Originally posted by 300Drive
I think I understand...so, swingers will thrust the right shoulder down to (through) the inside back of the ball, which keeps the club on-plane and delivers the power package through impact "correctly" (i.e., on plane)?

Is there also and simultaneously, an accompanying pull of the left side at all?

The Push of the Right Shoulder accelerates the Swinger's Left Arm and causes it to Pull the Hands and Club (6-B-4-0). The direction of that Pull is toward its source (the Pushing Right Shoulder). Therefore, when you Turn your Right Shoulder Down Plane (toward the Ball), i.e., 10-13-D #3 per 2-H, 2-L and 6-E-2-1, that is the direction taken by your Left Arm and Club -- the Golfer's Flail (2-K).

This Push -- a Thrusting Force -- is much misunderstood, both Mechanically and Kinesthetically. All that is needed to create this steady, driving force or pressure is a positive motion that initiates and sustains the Pull of Centrifugal Force. Its Execution need not -- in fact, should not -- be quick or jerky (3-F-6). And any violent action is not only unnecessary, it is counterproductive (due to its Throwaway tendencies).

Remember, every Pull requires a Push. A horse cannot pull a wagon until he pushes his shoulders against the collar of his harness.
 
Holenone,

What in the world is your background and how in the world do you know all of this? I am amazed and humbled by the s*%$ you rattle off on a daily basis.

Arch
 
Holenone taught Golfing Machine classes in early 80s .
After Homer died (GOD BLESS HIM) Hole none A.K.A. Yoda as I understand could not come to an "understanding" with Sally Kelley. So he took his memories of Homers knowledge (all on audio tapes) and went to the swamps of the financial world.Now thanks to the internet we have him back to interpret the sacred sanscript text.
WE NEED SOMEONE WITH BUCKS TO MAKE A VIDEO /DVD that features Holenone explaining the Book.
ONE OTHER PROBLEM ----------Salley sold the rights to Joe and Dan.
 

holenone

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quote:Originally posted by Archie Swivel

Holenone,

What in the world is your background and how in the world do you know all of this? I am amazed and humbled by the s*%$ you rattle off on a daily basis.

Arch

Thanks, Arch.

I've been learning about G.O.L.F. for a long time.

And I've applied myself, both in the armchair and on the Practice Ground.

But by far the most profound influence behind the posts you read was the personal instruction of my friend and Teacher...

Homer Kelley. ;)
 

rwh

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quote:Originally posted by Archie Swivel

Holenone,

What in the world is your background and how in the world do you know all of this? I am amazed and humbled by the s*%$ you rattle off on a daily basis.

Arch

There was one time over three days and about 14 hours worth of classroom that he had to look something up in the book. So, he could still use a little work!!
 
He seems like a "gift" to all of us.

Ummm, Holenone, your past financial career....esoteric derivatives???
 
quote:Originally posted by pixie

He seems like a "gift" to all of us.

Ummm, Holenone, your past financial career....esoteric derivatives???

Probably placing hedges against the forward price of precious metals...;)
 
quote:Originally posted by denny.

Holenone taught Golfing Machine classes in early 80s .
After Homer died (GOD BLESS HIM) Hole none A.K.A. Yoda as I understand could not come to an "understanding" with Sally Kelley. So he took his memories of Homers knowledge (all on audio tapes) and went to the swamps of the financial world.Now thanks to the internet we have him back to interpret the sacred sanscript text.
WE NEED SOMEONE WITH BUCKS TO MAKE A VIDEO /DVD that features Holenone explaining the Book.
ONE OTHER PROBLEM ----------Salley sold the rights to Joe and Dan.

So do Joe and Dan know their stuff like Holen1. Are they AI's? Out of pure curiosity, who would be the top 5 in the world as far as knowing TGM inside and out?
 
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