Bad Instruction? Its everywhere

[6bee1dee]

Just opened the Dec 2003 Golf Digest. Om page 94 starts a 3 step to a choke proof swing. Look on page 95 under the big words "the start". Scott Davenport shows a strong grip that he touts you will "immediately start making more soild contact with the ball." Now move your eyes two inches to the left. Thats not the grip he is touting? Come on.

I also felt a strong grip of the right hand leads to scooping in a beginners swing. Daveport on the left his a neutral grip with the right hand covering the golf ball before the clubhead reaches the ball. Wish there were instruction cops.

 

[Brian Manzella]

Thanks for seing this JUNK also.

Just JUNK.

Ya see, guys....This is one of their (GolfDigest's) paper champions.....

This is why I am still in this business...

PGA Tour: "These guys are good"

(most) Magazine Teachers: "These guys are NO GOOD"

 

[Bigtimer]

quote:Originally posted by brianman

Thanks for seing this JUNK also.

Just JUNK.

Ya see, guys....This is one of their (GolfDigest's) paper champions.....

This is why I am still in this business...

PGA Tour: "These guys are good"

(most) Magazine Teachers: "These guys are NO GOOD"

lol

Yeah, most instruction articles suck now. They all claim to be quick fixes, but really, none of them work.

 

[hue]

Biggeasy left a post on this subject on FGI under the heading "The real reason to study TGM" this was his post

The beauty of familiarizing yourself with the principles of The Golf Machine is the ability to weed out BAD golf advice in the magazines and websites. We are all golf tip junkies, but after studying TGM I can now disregard the junk and apply the good stuff. Went through a bunch of old GD and GM the other night and was amazed at the low quailty of advice some issues had. Thank you TGM.


The standard of instruction on both FGI and GO is now very lame. In banning Brian they killed the Goose that layed the golden egg. One of the best players I know , he just failed to get his tour card advised me when I started playing to only watch good players to learn and not to read golf mags and avoid Leadbetter. He felt that if you did this you would have a better chance of getting a game than being led up the garden path.

 

[6bee1dee]

quote:Originally posted by hue

Biggeasy left a post on this subject on FGI under the heading "The real reason to study TGM" this was his post

The beauty of familiarizing yourself with the principles of The Golf Machine is the ability to weed out BAD golf advice in the magazines and websites. We are all golf tip junkies, but after studying TGM I can now disregard the junk and apply the good stuff. Went through a bunch of old GD and GM the other night and was amazed at the low quailty of advice some issues had. Thank you TGM.


The standard of instruction on both FGI and GO is now very lame. In banning Brian they killed the Goose that layed the golden egg. One of the best players I know , he just failed to get his tour card advised me when I started playing to only watch good players to learn and not to read golf mags and avoid Leadbetter. He felt that if you did this you would have a better chance of getting a game than being led up the garden path.

I know you don't like Leadbetter, Hue. I think he would be a perfect instructor for beginners, blue hairs or at a snotty country club, but for most he is an instructor that does more harm than good.
My favorite golfer is Ian Poulter, who had a beautiful swing, but went to Leadbetter over the last winter at the advice of his buddy Justin Rose and now has a usable but vanilla swing with a big swing plane shift that lead to disaster one round.
Maybe, can’t imagine why, some pros think Lead is a status symbol or something.

 

[ragman]

quote:Originally posted by 6bee1dee

quote:Originally posted by hue

Biggeasy left a post on this subject on FGI under the heading "The real reason to study TGM" this was his post

The beauty of familiarizing yourself with the principles of The Golf Machine is the ability to weed out BAD golf advice in the magazines and websites. We are all golf tip junkies, but after studying TGM I can now disregard the junk and apply the good stuff. Went through a bunch of old GD and GM the other night and was amazed at the low quailty of advice some issues had. Thank you TGM.


The standard of instruction on both FGI and GO is now very lame. In banning Brian they killed the Goose that layed the golden egg. One of the best players I know , he just failed to get his tour card advised me when I started playing to only watch good players to learn and not to read golf mags and avoid Leadbetter. He felt that if you did this you would have a better chance of getting a game than being led up the garden path.

I know you don't like Leadbetter, Hue. I think he would be a perfect instructor for beginners, blue hairs or at a snotty country club, but for most he is an instructor that does more harm than good.
My favorite golfer is Ian Poulter, who had a beautiful swing, but went to Leadbetter over the last winter at the advice of his buddy Justin Rose and now has a usable but vanilla swing with a big swing plane shift that lead to disaster one round.
Maybe, can’t imagine why, some pros think Lead is a status symbol or something.

The stats say otherwise. In other words, Poulter has just had his BEST season (2003) as a professional w/ multiple victories.

What would you base your opinions of Leadbetter on?

 

[6bee1dee]

I know Ian won twice but I have seen him struggle but early and late in the sesson and the swing looks forced. I honestly beleive he would have won twice with the old swing too. He has hit some horrible golf shots with that swing this year. And I miss his preswing routine, too.

 

[MOEKNOWS]

I saw this article as well. The grip and the instructions about a karate chop type of motion are very close to the Heard Super Swing method even though this article calls for more body motion.

 

[6bee1dee]

quote:Originally posted by MOEKNOWS

I saw this article as well. The grip and the instructions about a karate chop type of motion are very close to the Heard Super Swing method even though this article calls for more body motion.

Karate chop is a big Austin move, too.

Just use the same grip in the close up as you do in the swing pics.