birdie_man
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CAT??
Bobby Clampett
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The CAT would be el Tigre.
That is certainly true today, but I wonder how prevalent this treatment was in the 80's and 90's was. Plus when Stewart went to cavity irons, his game fell apart...until he went back to blades.
That is certainly true today, but I wonder how prevalent this treatment was in the 80's and 90's was. Plus when Stewart went to cavity irons, his game fell apart...until he went back to blades.
Sonic_Doom
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Ya but remember he played with Titleist irons quite for some time after signing with Nike, until they produced a forged blade. Not sure many other companies would tolerate that from anyone other than Tiger.
Jared Willerson
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Tiger played Mizuno mp 14's as an am. Titleist made some irons for him that were EXACT replicas, as did Nike.
vjcapron
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Another player who completely lost his game after an equipment contract change was Steve Stricker.
This 3-time Big 10 conference champion almost won the 1998 PGA at Sahallee, won a couple of other tour events, and finished 4th on the money list. His reward was a $1 million contract with Taylor Made. He couldn't hit a fairway with the Burner Bubble and ended up losing his status. He went through 15 drivers in one year and could not find one he was comfortable with.
He is finally playing great golf again. He quietly made $1.8 Million last year using his past champion's exemption, and I was happy to see he had another top 10 last week.
BTW, I flipped through Clampett's book at Border's tonight. It looks like a great book. In the chapter on equipment he mentioned that golfers should switch to blades once the bottom of the swing is consistently 4 inches in front of the ball. He called blades "true game improvement" irons because they force you to be more precise.
This 3-time Big 10 conference champion almost won the 1998 PGA at Sahallee, won a couple of other tour events, and finished 4th on the money list. His reward was a $1 million contract with Taylor Made. He couldn't hit a fairway with the Burner Bubble and ended up losing his status. He went through 15 drivers in one year and could not find one he was comfortable with.
He is finally playing great golf again. He quietly made $1.8 Million last year using his past champion's exemption, and I was happy to see he had another top 10 last week.
BTW, I flipped through Clampett's book at Border's tonight. It looks like a great book. In the chapter on equipment he mentioned that golfers should switch to blades once the bottom of the swing is consistently 4 inches in front of the ball. He called blades "true game improvement" irons because they force you to be more precise.
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Dana Dahlquist
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They are a broken set of half 14s and half 29s.
Not to leave out that the Nike Blades he plays are made from Japan.
Blades
Interesting comment by Clampett about blades. Let me ask this question to some of the equipment experts out there. I played blades for many years. My most recent set being some MP-29's that I had refinished once but decided it just wasn't worth it to refinish them again. I switched to the Ping S-59's a couple of years ago. I like em, but have this nagging desire to go back to real forged blades again.
My question is this. With the changes in the ball over the years, how do you think some of the "old time" forged blades would work with today's balls? I'm talking about designs like the mid-70's Wilson Staff, the Macgregor VIP's from that same era, or the Hogan Apex or PC designs from the late 70's and early 80's, etc, etc. I've considered picking up an older iron set off ebay and giving it a go but with the modern ball I'm not sure it wouldn't end up being a "failed bit". I've heard that some of the equipment manufacturers put heavy consideration on today's ball when designing irons nowadays.
Robbo
Interesting comment by Clampett about blades. Let me ask this question to some of the equipment experts out there. I played blades for many years. My most recent set being some MP-29's that I had refinished once but decided it just wasn't worth it to refinish them again. I switched to the Ping S-59's a couple of years ago. I like em, but have this nagging desire to go back to real forged blades again.
My question is this. With the changes in the ball over the years, how do you think some of the "old time" forged blades would work with today's balls? I'm talking about designs like the mid-70's Wilson Staff, the Macgregor VIP's from that same era, or the Hogan Apex or PC designs from the late 70's and early 80's, etc, etc. I've considered picking up an older iron set off ebay and giving it a go but with the modern ball I'm not sure it wouldn't end up being a "failed bit". I've heard that some of the equipment manufacturers put heavy consideration on today's ball when designing irons nowadays.
Robbo
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Robbo,
If you can pick up a good set of old forged irons (heads), go for it.. Remember they were probably manufactured in the USA or Europe to tolerances and standards and with materials and matching that are way ahead of anything you (not the top pros) can get off the shelf today...
The only thing you will miss is the grooves
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Robbo,
If you can pick up a good set of old forged irons (heads), go for it.. Remember they were probably manufactured in the USA or Europe to tolerances and standards and with materials and matching that are way ahead of anything you (not the top pros) can get off the shelf today...
The only thing you will miss is the grooves
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vjcapron
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Robbo,
If you can pick up a good set of old forged irons (heads), go for it.. Remember they were probably manufactured in the USA or Europe to tolerances and standards and with materials and matching that are way ahead of anything you (not the top pros) can get off the shelf today...
The only thing you will miss is the grooves
I agree. You may want to reshaft the older set with some newer shafts and have the lofts bent to today's current standard. I did this recently and have had good success with some 1988 Hogan Apex irons. The only downfall is that when you make the lofts stronger, you decrease the bounce. These irons like to dig!
And chips around the green in wet conditions...no check...
birdie_man
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Without square grooves they would spin less. Also the lofts would be higher.
I don't see why they wouldn't be more or less fine. (i.e. aside from the expected differences)
I don't see why they wouldn't be more or less fine. (i.e. aside from the expected differences)
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