Bounce-Greg Norman
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softconsult
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Interesting. Nope, typing it in the Reply to thread field within the forum.
What resolution are you using? I'm using a 1024 x 768, but I highly doubt that makes
any difference. Puzzling.
What resolution are you using? I'm using a 1024 x 768, but I highly doubt that makes
any difference. Puzzling.
softconsult
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Zero Bounce Wedges - No experience with them.
Sounds like a, I hate to say it, marketing gimmick!
First they need a problem to solve. They say it's thin shots from the fairway.
Then they say it's caused by bounce. Now they alledgely solve it with zero bounce
wedges. What they don't tell you is that the original problem is now replaced with
a less forgiving design that will have more tendency to dig.
What a concept!
What do I know? People buy "Balance Bracelets".
Sounds like a, I hate to say it, marketing gimmick!
First they need a problem to solve. They say it's thin shots from the fairway.
Then they say it's caused by bounce. Now they alledgely solve it with zero bounce
wedges. What they don't tell you is that the original problem is now replaced with
a less forgiving design that will have more tendency to dig.
What a concept!
What do I know? People buy "Balance Bracelets".
SC, at 1024x768 it's okay, but on 800x600 it is not. It's like you've hit shift-returns at the far right edge of the line. In the html (view source) there is a html < br > used in the code, right after the word 'makes' in the example below. No one else's posts are like that.
This is what i see:
Softconsult:
What resolution are you using? I'm using a 1024 x 768, but I highly doubt that
makes
any difference. Puzzling.
This is what i see:
Softconsult:
What resolution are you using? I'm using a 1024 x 768, but I highly doubt that
makes
any difference. Puzzling.
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Your big post on page 2 had all these hard breaks:
(Seems maybe you use Shift-Enter sometimes? At least that's how I can replicate these hard breaks. But if so there is no need for doing that. Sorry for the time taken on this point.
)
This is just silliness. < br /> < br />
Let's see how this might play out. Golf needs new players to replace the one's who
die or quit.< br />
Television is a prime mechanism for getting people interested in learning the game.
Television < br />
is expensive and requires funding. Funding comes from advertising. Some of the
advertising comes < br />
from companies in the golf industry. They are advertising in order to sell product.
It's called marketing.< br /> < br />
So following your logic, golf marketing is evil and should be ignored. The result
would be no golf courses, < br />
because the number of players would decline overtime to a point where courses
couldn't stay in business.< br />
Golf equipment manufacturers would go out of business. I don't know if you
noticed, but golf isn't exactly a growth industry in the western world.
(Seems maybe you use Shift-Enter sometimes? At least that's how I can replicate these hard breaks. But if so there is no need for doing that. Sorry for the time taken on this point.
)This is just silliness. < br /> < br />
Let's see how this might play out. Golf needs new players to replace the one's who
die or quit.< br />
Television is a prime mechanism for getting people interested in learning the game.
Television < br />
is expensive and requires funding. Funding comes from advertising. Some of the
advertising comes < br />
from companies in the golf industry. They are advertising in order to sell product.
It's called marketing.< br /> < br />
So following your logic, golf marketing is evil and should be ignored. The result
would be no golf courses, < br />
because the number of players would decline overtime to a point where courses
couldn't stay in business.< br />
Golf equipment manufacturers would go out of business. I don't know if you
noticed, but golf isn't exactly a growth industry in the western world.
softconsult
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Dbl, things like this are what make computers interesting, and challenging.
I just hit enter key twice to drop down two lines.
Did it again but will run the line out to the right edge and let it wrap on it's own.abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghi. So when it got to the second i it wrapped to the next line.
Could be that at 800 x 600 the characters per line is shorter and characters get wrapped differently.
I could suggest that you switch to 1024 x 768, but you would probably respond like some of my industrial customers do. When I got into the software authoring business, the norm was 600 x 480 (Can't remember), then 800 x 600, then 1024 x 768, and now even smaller. My application does not auto-resize, so each resolution required re-design of bunch of different screens, around 200. Anyway, the response I get from some users is that they can't see the characters clearly at over 800 x 600. I tell them to get new glasses.
I just hit enter key twice to drop down two lines.
Did it again but will run the line out to the right edge and let it wrap on it's own.abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghi. So when it got to the second i it wrapped to the next line.
Could be that at 800 x 600 the characters per line is shorter and characters get wrapped differently.
I could suggest that you switch to 1024 x 768, but you would probably respond like some of my industrial customers do. When I got into the software authoring business, the norm was 600 x 480 (Can't remember), then 800 x 600, then 1024 x 768, and now even smaller. My application does not auto-resize, so each resolution required re-design of bunch of different screens, around 200. Anyway, the response I get from some users is that they can't see the characters clearly at over 800 x 600. I tell them to get new glasses.
softconsult
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Dbl, did some sleuting. In User CP | Edit Options | Message Editor Interface, there are three choices,
Simple Text, Standard Editor, and WYSIWYG Editor. I was using Standard Editor.
This is now WYSIWYG editor.
I just hit the enter key.
Simple Text, Standard Editor, and WYSIWYG Editor. I was using Standard Editor.
This is now WYSIWYG editor.
I just hit the enter key.
softconsult
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And here is simple text editor.
Hit return after editor.
LONGSTRINGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC.
Hit return after editor.
LONGSTRINGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC.
Richie3Jack
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I agree. Azinger was also the first guy I recall that really popularized the more than 2 wedges in the bag and in his prime he was tremendous with them. Mickelson seems to know how to use a wedge as well. Oh yeah, so does Tiger.
3JACK
trickyric67
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I use all three in every round I play. I chip with the gap a lot on chips I want to roll and I use the sw, well in most sand and the lobster comes in handy when I have short chip, or down hill or even just a lofter shot. I could use a sw for all three but then I would just go back to carrying a 3 iron that I would never touch
softconsult
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Exactly describes my club selections with the exception that I will go to the a PW or 9 iron on a long chip to back pin up the slope.
Thanks Soft. I notice in post 27 the wrapping is just about right with no extra < br/> in the source when you said you'd let it wrap by itself.
I have no shortage of computers and most are 1024x768 or higher. I just want to see your good writeups clearly no matter on what device I'm on.
By the way, the iphone shows the blocky cut-up sentences as well. So those hard breaks take a toll.
I have no shortage of computers and most are 1024x768 or higher. I just want to see your good writeups clearly no matter on what device I'm on.
By the way, the iphone shows the blocky cut-up sentences as well. So those hard breaks take a toll.
mgranato
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No worries, mate. Be very thankful that you do indeed think differently - the short bus is crowded enough already.
No, I believe Tom Kite was the one who was the pioneer in using multiple wedges.
birly-shirly
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I don't really disagree with this. But Utley might...
I'm pretty sure his pitching technique is all about bringing the bounce into play - not a leading edge first contact. So much so that some people have asked whether he's a flipper.
What I'm interested in is whether, in terms of technique, there's a trade-off between shaft lean (which takes the bounce out of play but which also reduces dynamic loft) and the angle of attack. In other words, could a steeper angle of attack let you play with more effective loft and bounce without blading the ball. Some of Utley's pitching keys are a leftward spine tilt, weight left and pretty active wrists - which would all seem to be heading in that direction.
softconsult
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One of the key points in Utley's short game book is that he is proponent of mastering
1 club and creating different shots. He uses a 58-12 wedge. His technique for chipping
begins with hands slightly more forward than the pitch address. Then that shaft lean increases through impact. It's hard to hit a low running chip without eliminating the bounce and perhaps hooding the club a bit.
1 club and creating different shots. He uses a 58-12 wedge. His technique for chipping
begins with hands slightly more forward than the pitch address. Then that shaft lean increases through impact. It's hard to hit a low running chip without eliminating the bounce and perhaps hooding the club a bit.
Kevin Shields
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Yes, it was Tom Kite
mgranato
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Kite added the 60* at the recommendation of his short game instructor, who charted/presented him with his shot data from inside onehundy. Fast forward, the same bloke got Mickelnuts to do the same with a 64*. Because of one nerd and two very successful players, every major manufacturer now offers both lofts in multiple bounces as wedge options.
To summarize (and in lieu yesterday's arse whoopin'), the only real contributions to the world of sport from Indiana University are two wedges. C'mon!
To summarize (and in lieu yesterday's arse whoopin'), the only real contributions to the world of sport from Indiana University are two wedges. C'mon!
softconsult
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I used the Lob wedge to my advantage back in the early 80's. I had discovered Ralph Maltby and made some clubs. Then I went into industrial sales. Bright idea for Christmas bribes to my golfing customers. Lob wedges personalized with the buyers name. Dirt cheap to build, they loved it, and they got to look forward to next year's offering!
birly-shirly
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Yep - but I don't think he makes any allowances for his 12* of bounce when pitching, rather than chipping, off a tight lie. You can't, in Utley's terms, hit a pitch shot AND take the bounce out of play. His definition of a pitch shot is that you're presenting the full loft of the club to the ball and using the bounce of the sole rather than the leading edge.It's one of the things I'd like to quiz him about over a pint. He makes a big deal that a lot of bounce is a good thing to have in a wedge, but then he's got some custom sole grind from Bob Vokey that takes the bounce out of the heel.
For a superstar short game guru, I though his book was a wee bit light on some details.
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