centered pivot fans....
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Todd Dugan
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Take note of when that trailing arm becomes fully extended.
Lindsey Newman
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Take note of how the baseball bat does not have a club face that needs squaring.
I like to use the baseball swing to help students understand pivot and the forward motion of the golf swing. I also like to show them the difference between the bat and the golf club. Since the bat is round it has a infinite number of flat spots.... the golf club on the other hand has one. I will get the student to start with the club up in front of them and a make sure the face is square then have the take a baseball type swing and stop them at impact. Every single time I have ever tried this drill the hosel always come back leading into impact and the face is wide open. Once the students realize what it takes to use the good pivot motion of a baseball swing but have the clubface come back to square they can usually translate it to the golf swing fairly quickly. A bit off topic but thought that I would share.
this video is great, i've watched it quite a few times in the past. no question these guys have big hip slide, and it's a power move for sure. but they use it also for timing, ie: if they are early on a pitch, more hip slide; late on a pitch, less hip slide.
for what it's worth, pitchers use a huge hip slide also.
lindsey's point is true too, this footage doesn't tell much about whether or not a hip slide hinders the ultra-precise move of repetitive squaring of the clubface.
also, almost all these guys fall back onto their back foot near the end of the motion. this would seem to be less detrimental with an uppercut swing on a ball near waist level vs. a golf ball on or near the ground.
that's an interesting point. my gut feeling is that there is power in that move. i mean, think about it, these guys have to react to a 98 MPH fastball (in a normal game) and they're STILL taking that step. if it was unnecessary, they could ditch it and have a lot more time to react to the ball.
there's a run-up in all the field sports i can think of also. (javelin, discus, shot put, hammer)
for what it's worth, pitchers use a huge hip slide also.
lindsey's point is true too, this footage doesn't tell much about whether or not a hip slide hinders the ultra-precise move of repetitive squaring of the clubface.
also, almost all these guys fall back onto their back foot near the end of the motion. this would seem to be less detrimental with an uppercut swing on a ball near waist level vs. a golf ball on or near the ground.
that's an interesting point. my gut feeling is that there is power in that move. i mean, think about it, these guys have to react to a 98 MPH fastball (in a normal game) and they're STILL taking that step. if it was unnecessary, they could ditch it and have a lot more time to react to the ball.
there's a run-up in all the field sports i can think of also. (javelin, discus, shot put, hammer)
welshdentist
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Interesting about not having to square the bat....
But they have the ball coming at them with all sorts of spin/speed/direction.
Being in the UK and knowing nothing about baseball, how accurate could these guys hit it with a machine spitting balls at them at the same speed/direction?
But they have the ball coming at them with all sorts of spin/speed/direction.
Being in the UK and knowing nothing about baseball, how accurate could these guys hit it with a machine spitting balls at them at the same speed/direction?
Kevin Shields
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I love the video but I see a lot of reverse tumbles. That's why ex baseball players hit the most spectacular slices.
Brian Manzella
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The video shows just about every move we have learned in the past two years, and plenty of them we learned 25 years ago.
I've seen MBL and NHL players play in golf pro-ams. Anyone have any thoughts about whether one group tends to play better than the other?
willimatic
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I have played with several cross over athletes from baseball and hockey to golf, and I typically think the hockey player tends to be better. Both have similar motions but I think the adjustment from a ball at waist high (baseball) plays a roll. Hockey is use to the puck being down near the foot level.
coach
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Be nice to hear what those are
Jim Kobylinski
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Amen and also develop flip hooks a lot of times because of it too.
Brian Manzella
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They are all over this forum.
Kevin Shields
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I wouldn't worry too much about it. It's all just marketing. Just don't stall them there hips and you'll be knocking it out there with Bubba.
coach
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Certainly "not worried too much about it " , to be honest, just thought it would be interesting to compare the baseball swing to the golf swing.
As far as the rest of your post
"It's all just marketing. Just don't stall them there hips and you'll be knocking it out there with Bubba"
"Confucius says "Many a truth is said in jest"
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