Charles Barkley talks about The Haney Project

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jeffgladchun

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Just happened to watch this video interview from Mobile, Alabama where Charles Barkley gave a speech during the GMAC bowl week.

This forum and Brian have talked about The Haney Project before, so I thought I'd post this.

I know there are some sports fans on here so the whole thing is worth a listen, but the parts he talks about being on The Haney Project begin at 2:04.

Just thought it was interesting.

http://blog.al.com/press-register-sports/2010/01/barkley_speaks_at_gmac_bowl_lu.html
 
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I actually found the Haney Project to be entertaining at first. Then it was like watching someone run headfirst into a wall over and over. Funny for a while but I just felt dirty for watching.
 
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ej20

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To be fair to Haney,Barkley's swing is unfixable.

When you reach a point where you get to the top of the backswing and then need to pump up and down half a dozen times before you hit the ball(if you hit the ball),it is time to give up....seriously...anybody else would have...it's beyond a joke.

Who knows,part of this could all be a publicity stunt.He's a celebrity and any publicity is good publicity.

I don't know anyone who would be able to stand being laughed at after every shot....in his case being laughed at in the middle of his swing because it takes him five seconds.
 
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jonnygrouville

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From the clips I had seen, Haney did have him making the odd swing without a dip. Not sure what the timeframe was for the show, but it is going to take a long time to shift that permanently, even with a thousand odd balls a day. Did they ever try hypnosis or anything? That sort of thing is in there deep.

An elderly gent at my home club lost the ability to make a downswing. He would get it to the top of the backswing and freeze. Would even shout 'Hit it!' at himself, but wouldn't budge.

Haney himself had the yips with his driver, so has the battle scars. I've seen that at my home club too! There was an ex-pro there who ended up not being able to hit it out of his shadow with any club in the bag.

Much like anything, it is worth thinking about other people as there is probably someone out there worse off than you. And I wouldn't wish any type of 'yip' or whatever you want to call it on anyone.
 
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Barkley should go see a neurologist. There is obviously some stuff going on that no golf instructor is going to figure out. One big case of the swing yips.
 
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macduffer

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This problem's actually not uncommon; I read an instruction book recently where the authors talk about it. They recommended an impact bag, amongst other things.
Re the neurologist: i doubt Barkley has a neurological problem that prevents him from making a downswing. If he did, it would have manifested itself very obviously by now, in a host of other areas. However, I do thing a trip to a psychologist could be an idea.
 
Richie3Jack

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I think his problem isn't so much bad shots alone, but his bad shots have hurt people in the gallery and his brain just can't accept that. I'd like to see him get better coaching than he got from Haney, but I don't think that will happen because the entire world tells him that Haney is the greatest coach ever and if he can't fix him, nobody will.

Even still, I'm not sure better teaching will exactly happen because I think his brain starts to remember the times he shanked one and hit some lady in the crowd and all of the other negative stuff.

I think he should probably give a left handed swing a go. He doesn't even really need to play permanently left handed, but at the very least learn how to do so. I think that may help his right handed game tremendously and if not, I think at least he's got an option of playing left handed. And while it sounds goofy, Rafael Nadal is right handed, grew up playing right handed and one day his coach convinced him to switch to playing left handed which he had never done before and we know how that turned out. So world class athletes can make the switch, too.





YAKUZA
 
Chip Putterman

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Let's not forget, Barkley is not some weekend hacker, he was a world-class athlete at the highest level. No golf coach can fix his problem. There are videos on YouTube of him swinging the club extremely well. Richie is correct, his problems stem from having injured people in the gallery. He doesn't need to do more drills, he needs Dr. Phil.
 
cmartingolf

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I would have loved a shot

I still think he can be helped. Fixed? That word doesn't apply.

His problem is his radically shut face.

RX:

1. Manz-Neutral left hand.
2. Don't let him sole the club EVER

WHY?

He has a moderate strong left hand and right when he takes it back he regrips it to another even stronger position. You don't regrip it if the club isn't resting on something, ie. the ground. Hank did work on it, but didn't finish the job.

The "pump" action set in to try and figure out how to "flip" the shut clubface under so the ball would go somewhere in play.

It's tough to pump, if he is trying to figure out how to get the face from wide open to somewhere squarish.

Who's next? A-rod:)
 
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A Backup

-Charles was playable when Hank was there to reinforce his drill, which seemed critical although very basic
-When Hank was not present Charles reverted
-Why did Hank not “train” someone in Charles' family to do what he (Hank) did? Would it have changed the result?
 
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westy

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I didn't watch much the show, but standing up a mattress and having him swing different things at it on different planes would work.
Start with a bat at 0 deg and gradually tip it over until he reaches 45 degrees, all the while changing the tools. sticks, bats, swords, flagsticks etc against matresses, heavy bags, old cars, whatever.
I bet he wouldn't balk with other toys.
Boil it down to one he could take to the range and then alternate in an increasing ratio.
Then quit.:eek:
 
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Brian Manzella

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EXPOSED.

Charles Barkley isn't in the top 5 most hopeless looking golfers I've taught in the last 28 years.

Really.

Could I have fixed him?

Well, let's say this: If "fixed" is have him play better than Haney did, and at least be able to play in front of a gallery without hurting people, than I would basically guarantee it.

Like Martin said, Charles has FLAWS in his motion. And one of those flaws is a HUGE chicken-wing/anti-rortation arm motion.

For crying out load, couldn't Hank see that.

And his most obvious flaw—his lurch—was NEVER attempted to be fixed.

Haney just hit him with his goofy method, the one based on 2D flawed junk science, and "hit a 1000 balls a day."

Folks, you only think the show was entertaining,

If I ever get a shot like that, and I believe one day I will, I'll be a bigger star than any golf teacher ever was when its over.

And my student and I will be traveling the world playing golf.

:)
 
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I guess we need to send a few emails to the Golf Channel then. Perhaps we could even plug the idea of a teachers competition show. They could give each teacher a small number of beginners and have a "friendly" competition after giving them some time with the students. You like?

Or.

Have a show like the Ultimate fighter. Bring in 12 golfers and have a draft followed by matches and see who's team wins.
 
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And what if Charles was / is simply faking the entire crummy swing?

He does love the attention / air time that he is getting!
The kidding and joking about his swing doesn't seem to affect him one bit!
He's athletic enough to muscle thru a hit and actually play the game!

Considering the athletic talent it took to play BB at his level, there is no way he should have a golf swing that looks like his!
 
jeffgladchun

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Brian Manzella said:
Charles Barkley isn't in the top 5 most hopeless looking golfers I've taught in the last 28 years.

Really.

Could I have fixed him?

Well, let's say this: If "fixed" is have him play better than Haney did, and at least be able to play in front of a gallery without hurting people, than I would basically guarantee it.

Like Martin said, Charles has FLAWS in his motion. And one of those flaws is a HUGE chicken-wing/anti-rortation arm motion.

For crying out load, couldn't Hank see that.

And his most obvious flaw—his lurch—was NEVER attempted to be fixed.

Haney just hit him with his goofy method, the one based on 2D flawed junk science, and "hit a 1000 balls a day."

Folks, you only think the show was entertaining,

If I ever get a shot like that, and I believe one day I will, I'll be a bigger star than any golf teacher ever was when its over.

And my student and I will be traveling the world playing golf.

:)
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Brian, can I call shotgun?
 
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Brian Manzella

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Eyeoffish said:
I guess we need to send a few emails to the Golf Channel then. Perhaps we could even plug the idea of a teachers competition show. They could give each teacher a small number of beginners and have a "friendly" competition after giving them some time with the students. You like?

Or.

Have a show like the Ultimate fighter. Bring in 12 golfers and have a draft followed by matches and see who's team wins.
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Thanks, but really, no thanks.

Pretty girls never ask the guy out.

When they ask me, I'll be ready.
 
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greenfree

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Quote:Brian Manzella. Folks, you only think the show was entertaining.

Isn't that the idea, It's not about actually fixing Barkley's swing, it's about trying to fix it and all the side stuff that comes with it and hopefully that stuff is funny and entertaining.

Barkley's swing is just the catalyst for that, if it get's fixed along the way great, if not so what, ratings baby, ratings. Some show's work others don't, but the whole idea is entertainment and i think it fits the bill, all the talk about the show in the media alone makes it a success.
 
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