Charles Howell on Golf Magazine.....Awesome Impact

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Jim Kobylinski

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quote:Originally posted by matt

Only point it outside or inside the plane line if you desire to be offplane.

Thats what i thought. So can you still point at the plane line with if you are still using the elbow plane?
 
quote:Originally posted by jim_0068


Thats what i thought. So can you still point at the plane line with if you are still using the elbow plane?

The plane line on the ground remains the same, no matter what plane angle you use. Think of the Hogan pane of glass picture. Tilt it up or down, it still sits on the same line on the ground. If you maintain the right forearm in line with the shaft, your plane angle is based on the line between your right trigger finger and the right elbow.
 
This "Hotlines Technology" of Accelerized Golf causes the ball to disappear if any of their "position" criteria aren't met - club off plane on BS, lateral hip movement on BS, club crossing the line at the Top, etc., then you don't get a chance to hit the ball. I'll bet at least 100 of the 125 tour card holders wouldn't ever get the chance to hit the ball using this thing. On the other hand, a completely lagless swing could satisfy the criteria and be allowed to hit the ball. And how does it prevent a bent Left Wrist through the Impact interval?
 

Brian Manzella

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YIKES! jim!

Don't EVER try to get on the elbow plane.

Now, if you do it naturally...ok...but don't force it.

Homer said: "The Elbow plane is almost always UN-CONSCIOUSLY used."
 

Jim Kobylinski

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LMAO @ BRIAN.....i would NEVER attempt that plane. I was doing slow motion swings with it and i was like "WTF!"

I was just more curious about it is all...

By the way my swing is better, plane lasers been helping me out big time
 

matt

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If you are coming underplane on the downswing like some people do, you are either knowingly or unknowingly shifting back to the Elbow Plane. Would I ever conciously try to use it? No. But if my stroke brings me to it, I can play from there.
 
That's what I think I've been doing lately, I like it though. Straight push. I've prolly hit 300 balls at the range with only a handful of pulls. I just need to see if I can draw it now...

I have a question: Could Trevino and Couples draw the ball?
 
quote:Originally posted by wanole


Thanks, but damn Fultom Allem scared the sheet out of me when that pooped up. :)

How is that guy still on tour. He is as bad as Duval.
Well, in the article Fulty talks about how he is now broke and is leaving the states and moving back to South Africa. I think he has run out of options on tour. This guy's life has been a trainwreck. He owes a bunch of money to a casino. They actually sent some "associates" to Florida who took his clubs away from him at some tournament.
 
With all due respect MizunoJoe, I think that your review of accelerized golf is misinformed. I am a current student and can personally attest to the fact that the hotlines technology along with their techers expertise does increase lag. When I started going to accelerized golf I had no lag, was off plane and had a lateral slide. Using the hot lines technology, I was able to create a swing that is on plane, with no lateral movement and that has lag. You see lag is destroyed by being off plane, bad ball position, etc. The technology at Accelerized golf takes care of these problems and hence helps create lag. There really is no point in having lag if you are off plane with bad ball position. I have sent well over 30 people to the guys at accelerized golf and each person has called me after their lesson and thanked me. One guy even told me that it made his marriage better.
 
kermitm,

This was just my impression from the website. But when you say, "You see lag is destroyed by being off plane", it seems to imply that being on plane guarantees having Lag - it does not. How does Accelerized Golf determine that the clubhead is lagging behind the shaft in an on-plane swing? It MUST do this, if it is to allow you to hit the ball ONLY when you have made an effective swing up to the point of Impact.
 
Mizumojoe, I didn't mean to imply that being on plane guarantees lag. However, if you are off plane what is the point of having lag. It really doesn't seem to do a lot of good. I have seen the teachers at accelerized golf take students that have an off plane motion put them on plane and without doing anything else their lag is increased. Being on plane does not gaurantee lag, but it seems to help.
 
Kermitm,

Do they have some way to actually measure Clubhead Lag before Impact? Not #2 Lag, but Clubhead Lag - the clubhead bending the shaft because it's lagging behind it. You can be on-plane with #2 Lag, and have no Clubhead Lag.
 
I studied hundreds of hours with the creator of accerlerized learning center ---George Kelnhofer G.S.E.D. He measures the size of your pulley. He has improved many players lag.
 
I find that being on plane does increase lag. If you are on plane it is easier and more comfortable to accelerate. Being on plane give you a feeling of control and this frees you up to get the club moving.
 
One of the most misunderstood terms in golf is lag. "Lag" is a generic term for 6 positions in the downswing that determine it's effectiveness. In order to have "lag": you must create angle in the backswing, you must maintain it or increase it(float load) thru the downswing, you must have a square face angle to the plane, you must have a lowering of the spine angle or at least a maintenance thereof, you must continue rotation thru impact, and last but not least is you MUST accelerate late.
 
"Lag" is a generic term for 6 positions in the downswing" and "you must have a square face angle to the plane".

There a 3 types of Lag - Clubhead Lag, Pivot Lag, and Accumulator Lag, of which there are four sub-types - not just the Wristcock you allude to.

The only clubface requirement is that the clubface angle and motion be correct through the Impact Interval. Except for some exceptions, the clubface should contact the inside aft quadrant of the ball, which requires the clubface be open about 3 degrees.
 
this may be a stupid question but is charles howell a hitter or swinger? Swinger is my guess, but can someone describe his swinging style a little more in depth?
 
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