Chipping Technique - Options?? What works best in practice

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What technique would you say works best. According to Phil Mickleson, "there is only one way to chip" and thats "hinge and hold". Phil is ...well, pretty good with a wedge, so Im sure it works.

Would TGM recommend "no wrist hinge" when chipping? its seems that the 2 feet back, 2 feet through looks like a putting stroke chip.

Conversely, Stan Utley recommends using your pivot, along with a wrist hinge, to chip. He likes a shallow chipping action, from the inside, sort of like a sweeping action, but with a pivot.

Luke Donald in the latest GD edition, says he likes to keep his wrists firm and hit "to the ball" and not sweep through the ball when chipping......now thats different.

I believe Brian Manzella likes a cut chip, outside-in path, open face, open stance.


What are your thoughts, thanks.
 
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What is the definition of a chip? I heard Dave Stockton indicate that for putts and low chips, the left hand moves to the hole and stays firm. I tried that yesterday and it really helped my chips and putting. I chunked two chips in a row and then kept that left wrist firm. No more chilidips. This is for low chips just off the green, not a pitch.
 
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rogerdodger said:
What is the definition of a chip? I heard Dave Stockton indicate that for putts and low chips, the left hand moves to the hole and stays firm. I tried that yesterday and it really helped my chips and putting. I chunked two chips in a row and then kept that left wrist firm. No more chilidips. This is for low chips just off the green, not a pitch.
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Ok, but whats the technique?
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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Learn multiple techniques and choose the appropriate one. However, generally, i like my chips to run out rather than try and check up really fast because i'm trying to make most of them. They need to roll like a putt for that to happen. A good example is the chip that Justin Rose had on i think 17 @ Cog Hill. Nipped it off the grass cleanly, checked up on the first bounce and then rolled the rest of the way into the hole.
 
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Jim Kobylinski said:
Learn multiple techniques and choose the appropriate one. However, generally, i like my chips to run out rather than try and check up really fast because i'm trying to make most of them. They need to roll like a putt for that to happen. A good example is the chip that Justin Rose had on i think 17 @ Cog Hill. Nipped it off the grass cleanly, checked up on the first bounce and then rolled the rest of the way into the hole.
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Do you have a standard for a stock chip in terms of technique? I mean, do you keep your wrists frozen, do you hinge them, is your path on an arc, or outside in??
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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No i don't have a stock shot, it all depends on the shot needed. Sometimes you hit down on it more because you want it to stop quicker, sometimes you nip it with a bent left wrist because you want it to pop up and not spin too much. Sometimes i use a putting grip and hit the chip like a putt to get it rolling immediately.

Just depends.
 
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Only two options here in Texas...

Bump and Run

or

Bump and Run

Seriously, trying to spin chips around here is folly. The greens are not receptive to it (unless you're playing one of those fancy courses that can afford water...)

I personally use the Paul Runyan method.
 
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"I believe Brian Manzella likes a cut chip, outside-in path, open face, open stance.

Highly doubtful.

This is a hopeless question. Think about it. The Pro's use different techniques.
Obviously they all work or they wouldn't be Pro's. There are many books written by
people promoting their method.

So I would say study, try a few methods. Learn a few methods. Practice, practice.
Finally, remember imagination, because you have to dream up the shot according to
a variety of situations.
 
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softconsult said:
"I believe Brian Manzella likes a cut chip, outside-in path, open face, open stance.

Highly doubtful.

This is a hopeless question. Think about it. The Pro's use different techniques.
Obviously they all work or they wouldn't be Pro's. There are many books written by
people promoting their method

So I would say study, try a few methods. Learn a few methods. Practice, practice.
Finally, remember imagination, because you have to dream up the shot according to
a variety of situations.
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If you check the past threads, I'll find that .....he likes the cut chip! But, if you don't check, you......!

I agree with the experimentation though. Sorry it's thought of as an impossible question, although it appears some have the ability to provide constructive input, ideas, opinions.
 
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Just offering up my opinion of your question. Let's see now, if Brian favored cut, outside-in etc., I wonder why he made no mention
of it during my lesson, which included chipping. Don't you understand that sometimes you cut it a little, sometimes you hood it a little, sometimes you pinch it for check spin. Sheesh!
 
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softconsult said:
Just offering up my opinion of your question. Let's see now, if Brian favored cut, outside-in etc., I wonder why he made no mention
of it during my lesson, which included chipping. Don't you understand that sometimes you cut it a little, sometimes you hood it a little, sometimes you pinch it for check spin. Sheesh!
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.......didnt check.

OK, I wasn't looking for an opinion of my question, rather, was seeking answers to my question. Do you care to give any insight into what technique he talked about (a how to question)? Clearly one of you thought it relavent to help you in your chipping since it was part of your lesson (at a rate of $200/hour)? Or, didnt you already understand???

Chill, its a forum where questions are asked...so I asked, its less expensive this way.
 
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Jim Kobylinski said:
Learn multiple techniques and choose the appropriate one. However, generally, i like my chips to run out rather than try and check up really fast because i'm trying to make most of them. They need to roll like a putt for that to happen. A good example is the chip that Justin Rose had on i think 17 @ Cog Hill. Nipped it off the grass cleanly, checked up on the first bounce and then rolled the rest of the way into the hole.
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Correct and I would suggest to try different ones and see which one is the easiest for one to do consistantly, that way one has a technique one feels confident in using and then work on the others.
 
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kc8kir said:
Only two options here in Texas...

Bump and Run

or

Bump and Run

Seriously, trying to spin chips around here is folly. The greens are not receptive to it (unless you're playing one of those fancy courses that can afford water...)

I personally use the Paul Runyan method.
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Good one but why, Ive never played in Texas.
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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I've played a few courses in texas and the ball will still check even on dried out greens. You need fresh grooves and a spinny ball though
 
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Went out today and tryed a few diffrenent types of techniques; so far, I like the swinging chip best, right forearm fanning, swinging pivot through, not as effective from the rough.

I also like the "hinge and hold", it gave me slighly more height and spin, and very goof from the rough.

The cut chip was ok, but very effective from the rough.

Overall, liked using the fanning right forearm technique (swinging), with no wrist hinge a my standard way to chip, from there, the conditions will dictate the variation of technique.
 
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dschultz6072 said:
Don't let the clubhead pass your hands or decelerate before impact and you shouldn't get any of those chubby shots.
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biggest mishit for my chips are thin, or chips that are too hot, so, I need to work on getting a technique that softens the shot more (I'm thinking more vertial strike though the ball, so, working the clubhead "up" more on the backswing).
 
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