Club Path and Attack Angle - Trackman

[mjstrong]

"path" = "club path" = "true path" = "resultant path"

"path" = AoA and HSP

Path is a function of HSP, VSP, and AoA (You could also say that AoA is a function of HSP, VSP, and Horizontal Path).

The higher the VSP is, the less the down affects the out.

 

[Tom Losinger]

Am I correct there is no numerical calculation displayed on Trackman for "resultant path?" I never saw one when I hit balls on a Trackman.

What can it be left of? The target line?

Resultant path, I believe, is a Manzella term..... Path is a TrackMan and traditional ball flight term. Yes path is left of the target line. Or right of the target line or on the target line.

 

[cwdlaw223]

"path" = "club path" = "true path" = "resultant path"

"path" = AoA and HSP

Club path is a defined term by Trackman and is not the same as the resultant/true path. I think that's where some of the confusion arises over the general word path. Club path is the horizontal component of the resultant/true path but it isn't equal to the resultant/true path.

 

[Kevin Shields]

Club path is a defined term by Trackman and is not the same as the resultant/true path. I think that's where some of the confusion arises over the general word path. Club path is the horizontal component of the resultant/true path but it isn't equal to the resultant/true path.

There is no confusion. Club path on Trackman is the resultant path after HSP, VSP and AoA are factored in. HSP is the horizontal component.

 

[cwdlaw223]

There is no confusion. Club path on Trackman is the resultant path after HSP, VSP and AoA are factored in. HSP is the horizontal component.

Trackman defines "club path" as the horizontal (left/right) angle of the club head moving at impact and "attack angle" as the vertical (up/down) angle the club head is moving at impact.

Club path can't be the same as the resultant path unless "club path" has two definitions. I like the term "true path" as a better definition to combine the concept of club path and attack angle to get the true, 3D path of the club head at impact.

Why do you say that club path is the resultant path after HSP, VSP and AoA are factored in? I don't understand your position in light of the Trackman's definition of club path and attack angle.

 

[Tom Losinger]

I believe that savydan indicated "resultant path" is a 3 D component in his prior post. How can the "club path" (a defined term by trackman) also be the resultant path if the resultant path is a 3 D component and can only be captured in 3 D?

If club path is the resultant path then Trackman does give a numerical calculation for the resultant path (called the club path by Trackman).

When I look up the definition of the word "club path" in Trackman's newsletters they make no mention of the AoA (which is part of my confusion).

AoA is just one of the components that effects the Path #/direction. The more negative the AoA the more the path goes to the right. The more positive the AoA the more left Path will tend to be.

Remember VSP...HSP...AoA - determine club path

 

[dannyc]

Path is a function of HSP, VSP, and AoA (You could also say that AoA is a function of HSP, VSP, and Horizontal Path).

The higher the VSP is, the less the down affects the out.

yes, the VSP effects how much the HSP must be turned to get the desired path. my reply

"path" = "club path" = "true path" = "resultant path"

"path" = AoA and HSP

was in response to this part (in bold)

Define "true/resulant path"? I now know this is the term to use when we speak of "path", however, Trackman doesn't define the words true path or resultant path. It seems like true path or resulant path is a function of the combination of attack angle and the club path (which are defined terms by Trackman).

I would assume that club path would just be a function of the HSP and VSP and then the combination of club path with AoA to get the true/resultant path. It seems like the AoA gets counted twice (and I'm thinking way too much, but I want to get it correct).

Club path is a defined term by Trackman and is not the same as the resultant/true path. I think that's where some of the confusion arises over the general word path. Club path is the horizontal component of the resultant/true path but it isn't equal to the resultant/true path.

club path describes the movement left or right of the clubhead at impact. HSP is the direction of the club at low point. what separates the HSP from the "path" is the AoA.

 

[Kevin Shields]

Just look at the graphics in the "club trajectory" portion and it should clear it up. A resultant path is clearly measured.

dannyc, I believe HSP measures the entire bottom half of the swing, not just low point. Its the baseline that being traced.

 

[cwdlaw223]

Thanks guys. I went in circles on this one and didn't see the forest through the trees.