Consciosly "laying off" at the top?

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Jim Kobylinski

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i don't have time to get pictures, but i'm talking about a severe over rotation of the left arm wedge to the plane, not the slight lay off that happens when people shift to the elbow plane.

I am not arguing that many players appear to lay it off some because they are shifting to a shallower plane and it will happen. I am talking about extreme cases.
 
i don't have time to get pictures, but i'm talking about a severe over rotation of the left arm wedge to the plane, not the slight lay off that happens when people shift to the elbow plane.

I am not arguing that many players appear to lay it off some because they are shifting to a shallower plane and it will happen. I am talking about extreme cases.

are you saying that sergio's trademark lay off move is done(consciously or not by him) by rotating the left arm basically away from square during the transition?
 
are you saying that sergio's trademark lay off move is done(consciously or not by him) by rotating the left arm basically away from square during the transition?

I think its origins lie in his old takeaway, which was outside the line with an overly rotated right wrist which kept the clubface square (outside the line takeaways usually have a shut clubface).after the club has gone outside the line the left arm swings across the chest to put the clubface in a laid off position.
 

Jim Kobylinski

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are you saying that sergio's trademark lay off move is done(consciously or not by him) by rotating the left arm basically away from square during the transition?

Yes at some point; one thing to note that people with aggressive pivots this will happen. I don't know why, maybe mandrin can explain, but during the transition a strong pivot pull will push the left arm further towards the plane, i even do it and have to be careful about it because it can lead to big pushes for me.
 
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